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Plugin hybrid is what I'm looking for in my next car. Kinda want pure EV, but I'd need an inexpensive fast charging car (that isn't a Tesla). Given my driving
by beej71 3y ago
Plugin hybrid is what I'm looking for in my next car. Kinda want pure EV, but I'd need an inexpensive fast charging car (that isn't a Tesla).
Given my driving habits, I'd only use gas for infrequent long trips.
And Toyota has it priced right. I'm not surprised they're making a killing.
- onlyrealcuzzo 3y agoAre there going to be any serious competitors to the Prius Prime within the next 3 years? Kia has the Niro PHEV, and Hyundai has the Tuscon Prime PHEV, but discontinued the Sonata PHEV in 2020. Then you've got a decent amount of "luxury" options like the XC60 Recharge - that don't really have that impressive of MPGe. Is there anything else on the roadmap or currently available?
- ianai 3y agoRAV4 prime is awesome, if you can get it. Time should make them more available.
- freetime2 3y agoI think the Mitsubishi Outlander looks like a pretty compelling PHEV. I wouldn’t really call it a competitor to the Prius though, since it’s got a significantly different body style.
- nebula8804 3y agoHeard GM is brining back Voltec. Should never have discontinued it but instead rolled it out to the entire lineup.
- dragontamer 3y agoFord Escape PHEV and Hyundai Tucson are solid, but lower end, PHEVs than the Prius Prime. They are compact SUVs however and are arguably more of a RAV4 competitor but come in at under Prius Prime prices. ------- The Lincoln Corsair PHEV is the luxury version of the Ford Escape, but is well cheaper than the Lexus equivalent. I've been told that Ford/Lincoln is using licensed Toyota drivetrain technology too. I'll have to double check that claim but the Ford Escape/Lincoln Corsair drivetrain is RAV4-like for sure, albeit lower powered / inferior. But I'm hoping it's still got similar reliability. But it's very hard to compete vs the Prius / Prime / RAV4 hybrid. But the Ford models have the tax credit AND lower MSRP. ------ I'm personally still strongly considering the Prius. But the other vehicles could feasibly come in at the right price point and turn me away from Toyota.
- jfim 3y ago> I've been told that Ford/Lincoln is using licensed Toyota drivetrain technology too. I heard that too but couldn't find a recent source that they still did when I researched that a little more than a year ago. From what I remember, they're using something simpler now; one axle is gas and one is electric and it'll just switch between the two automatically. I have the Corsair and it's great. If you're careful about putting it in EV mode every time you start the car (it defaults to hybrid) and charge at home, it doesn't use any gas for daily stuff that's within range. Edit: This may be different for the Escape. The PHEV Escape seems to be front wheel drive while the Corsair is all wheel drive.
- helij 3y agoNew Honda CR-V is PHEV if you want it. We have previous hybrid model and I tested the new one. It's amazing. The only minus point is that it became even bigger.
- darknavi 3y ago> but I'd need an inexpensive fast charging car > Given my driving habits, I'd only use gas for infrequent long trips. Why do you need a "fast charging car"? Lack of overnight charging setup?
- malfist 3y agoLots of people rent or live in apartments or condos where they can't access nor install chargers.
- ianai 3y agoTry living in an apartment in a small town a good drive from a city. I dream everyday of a pure BEV, but the range and charging infrastructure are just not there. Oh and winters and hot summers exist.
- potatochup 3y agoWhat's wrong with hot summers? Energy available in the battery in reases with temperature.
- xnx 3y agoUsing air conditioning cuts range significantly.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoIf they can't plug in at home or at work, why would they consider paying extra for a plug-in hybrid?
- was8309 3y agoi just don't want another gas only car, and so will deal with some inconvenience.
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- mjamesaustin 3y agoIf you're not buying till the 2025 model year, almost every automaker is adopting Tesla's charging port meaning you can get Tesla charging without having to get a Tesla.
- ianai 3y agoAt which point charging will take longer because of the lines involved. Hope they're building out. I hear and see no chargers being built. And they totally could be.
- beembeem 3y agoAlong my long destination driving routes through rural areas, the charging stations rarely have a car in them. So yes and no to this. Obviously urban and near-urban areas are always packed.
- wilg 3y agoThey are building out rapidly. I'm not sure why you would "hear and see" them being built. But every day multiple new ones open. https://supercharge.info/ https://supercharge.info/
- anjel 3y agoThere's no indication other brands will pay the same price for a Tesla charge though.
- helij 3y agoIn the last few days two people told me they are not happy with their EVs. One already changed back. I really want an EV but reading all the forums and what kind of issues people have really puts me off. I love our hybrid and when it runs on battery it's such a nice and smooth ride and I'm dreaming of 100% electric now. I guess the next step will be PHEV but I really, really want 100% electric. Unfortunately experience of other drivers, like I said, is putting me off for now.
- hijklmnopq 3y agoI like my EV6. Zero issues. Of course I have a house and installed a charger so makes my life easy. I actually would always recommend an ev where it makes sense