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Interesting problem space-- I have a culture jamming legal theory this might work for: What if you had a $99/mo pro-se legal service that does two things, 1) t

Interesting problem space-- I have a culture jamming legal theory this might work for: What if you had a $99/mo pro-se legal service that does two things, 1) teaches you how to move all of your assets into secure vehicles. 2) At the same time it lets you conduct your own defense pro-se-- but the point is not to win, it's just to jam the system. If you signal to the opposing party that you're legally bankrupt and then you just file motion after motion and make it as excruciating as possible for them they might just say nevermind when they realize it's gonna take them 5 years to get through appeals process. It's true lawyers don't want to give up their legal documents for a template service-- but honestly just going to the court house and ingesting tons of filings might do the trick. With that strategy in mind you don't really need GREAT documents or legal theory anyway. Just docs that comply with court filing requirements. Yeah we're def gonna need to deposition your housekeepers daughters at $400/h and if you have a problem with that I would be happy to have a hearing about it. If enough people did this is would basically bring the legal system to a standstill and give power back to the people. RIP Aaron Swartz who died fighting for these issues :'(

gee_totes 3y ago
What you're describing in 2) sounds a lot like paper terrorism[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_terrorism
- oldgregg 3y ago
  So what do you call it when the wealthy and corporations exploit their opponent's inability to afford legal representation? A normal Tuesday in Amerika. Yes, the banality of tuesday terrorism.
  - akira2501 3y ago
    > So what do you call it when the wealthy and corporations exploit their opponent's inability to afford legal representation? It's called a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. It's also illegal in most states. > A normal Tuesday in Amerika. We already understood your derogatory outlook without it needing to be literal. Anyways, that's why the founders gave us the First, Fourth, and Fifth amendments. It turns out, they recognized, the "law" is literally the worst mechanism for discovering truth and managing outcomes. > Yes, the banality of tuesday terrorism. It's terrorism because it has no logical conclusion nor any ability to positively benefit anyone's life, in particular, the person who would wield it. Your equivocation ignores this.
trevithick 3y ago
You would be a vexatious litigant. https://www.courts.ca.gov/12272.htm https://www.courts.ca.gov/12272.htm
- oldgregg 3y ago
  That's different. I'm talking about using it as a defensive mechanism against wealthy individuals and corporations who bully (relatively) poor people knowing they can't afford years of litigation. In theory if you had an AI system like what I'm talking about it could be used the other way though. Honestly if every individual had the ability to go after corporations in the same manner it would even the playing field. Still wouldn't necessarily be vexatious.

gee_totes 3y ago

What you're describing in 2) sounds a lot like paper terrorism[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_terrorism

oldgregg 3y ago
So what do you call it when the wealthy and corporations exploit their opponent's inability to afford legal representation? A normal Tuesday in Amerika. Yes, the banality of tuesday terrorism.
- akira2501 3y ago
  > So what do you call it when the wealthy and corporations exploit their opponent's inability to afford legal representation? It's called a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. It's also illegal in most states. > A normal Tuesday in Amerika. We already understood your derogatory outlook without it needing to be literal. Anyways, that's why the founders gave us the First, Fourth, and Fifth amendments. It turns out, they recognized, the "law" is literally the worst mechanism for discovering truth and managing outcomes. > Yes, the banality of tuesday terrorism. It's terrorism because it has no logical conclusion nor any ability to positively benefit anyone's life, in particular, the person who would wield it. Your equivocation ignores this.

trevithick 3y ago

You would be a vexatious litigant. https://www.courts.ca.gov/12272.htm https://www.courts.ca.gov/12272.htm

oldgregg 3y ago
That's different. I'm talking about using it as a defensive mechanism against wealthy individuals and corporations who bully (relatively) poor people knowing they can't afford years of litigation. In theory if you had an AI system like what I'm talking about it could be used the other way though. Honestly if every individual had the ability to go after corporations in the same manner it would even the playing field. Still wouldn't necessarily be vexatious.