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The "mea culpa, I have been part of over-egging a pre-launch product based on being blessed with privileged access to an extremely limited guided walkthrough an

The "mea culpa, I have been part of over-egging a pre-launch product based on being blessed with privileged access to an extremely limited guided walkthrough and I lost all objectivity" shuffle. And that bit about a VR headset being better than an iPad for a personal video player is some seriously optimistic, overextended thinking. Is wearing half a kilo of electronics with a two hour battery life on your head really superior to a smaller screen with all-day battery life that you can put away at a moment's notice? (Even ignoring that video content often has more than two hours of runtime.)

softirq 3y ago
Yes it is. Watching a 3D movie on an entire wall in bed next to my spouse is mind blowing.
- bemusedthrow75 3y ago
  You'll have to file me under a) doesn't watch films or use internet gadgets in bed, especially to the exclusion of someone else b) would at any rate choose a film my partner wanted to watch too c) ignoring the above, would probably buy the cheapest VR headset that offered a virtual theatre good enough
  - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
    (My experience with watching movies on VR headsets- haven’t tried newest generation) Have you ever watched a CAM version of a movie? I feel like this kind of activity peaked in late 2000s… That’s what it felt like watching a movie in VR to me. (In my experience with non-luxury headsets) It’s worse picture quality than my phone. For me, watching a movie in 4K on a TV is very very different than the equivalent of ~< 720p, blurry mess with giant god rays. If AVP can deliver on what people describe, it’s compelling. Still probably won’t buy one though
    - crazygringo 3y ago
      This is not true at all. You get full 1080p detail on a Quest, with excellent color and contrast. The AVP gets you to around 4K detail. It is nothing at all like CAM. Not in color and not in resolution. It doesn't even make sense to say that because the display specs for these devices are well known. God rays aren't really a problem watching TV content because they're most prevalent at the edges of the display, but you place your virtual screen in the middle. So they're basically a non-issue. (And TV's can have glare problems of their own if you're not watching them in the dark.)
      - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
        This has been my experience- i haven’t tried any of the newest generation, but have tried many. “any vr headset that has a virtual theatre” won’t offer a good movie watching experience
        crazygringo 3y ago
        I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "virtual theater", but if you have an app that allows you to freely move and resize a virtual screen in a black "void", the movie-watching experience is exceptional, including on a Quest 2 or 3. I recommend using the popular SkyBox player.
        jasonjmcghee 3y ago
        I’m glad it’s gotten better. A few years ago, it was genuinely terrible. Any dark scenes looked awful, screendoor effect was huge. Haven’t tried Quest 2/3
        SirMaster 3y ago
        I've tried the Quest 3 and it's still not very good IMO. Quest 3 is still a low contrast LCD and at absolute best gives you close to a 720p virtual theater screen. I think the AVP is the first headset that can actually provide a good movie viewing expedience in a headset coming close to a full 1080p virtual screen and with high OLED contrast.
  - astrange 3y ago
    Often the other people in your house would like to be excluded from the movies you're watching, for instance because they want to sleep and don't want the light leakage.
    - barbazoo 3y ago
      How many people watch tv in bed, is that a thing?
      - HDThoreaun 3y ago
        Yes it certainly is a thing
- zmmmmm 3y ago
  It doesn't bother you that your spouse can't see it? Even with an iPad, they are still sharing the space with you because they peripherally see what you are are doing, watching, etc. If something particularly interesting was on the screen you could point it out to them etc. I can completely believe it's mind blowing (I do it with my Quest 3), but I can't see how this isn't something that will ultimately harm your connectedness to the people around you.
- lm28469 3y ago
  Richest company in the world shits out a 2 kilos vr headset so we can watch the blandest Netflix original of the month from our bed between two soulless shift at work. The future is bright. At that point I'm genuinely more interested in watching a tomato grow in my garden
- wilg 3y ago
  3D movies suck and there's no difference between it being the size of a wall and being a laptop sitting on your lap or chest in bed. Field of view don't care about the "size". (I have a Vision Pro)

softirq 3y ago

Yes it is. Watching a 3D movie on an entire wall in bed next to my spouse is mind blowing.

bemusedthrow75 3y ago
You'll have to file me under a) doesn't watch films or use internet gadgets in bed, especially to the exclusion of someone else b) would at any rate choose a film my partner wanted to watch too c) ignoring the above, would probably buy the cheapest VR headset that offered a virtual theatre good enough
- jasonjmcghee 3y ago
  (My experience with watching movies on VR headsets- haven’t tried newest generation) Have you ever watched a CAM version of a movie? I feel like this kind of activity peaked in late 2000s… That’s what it felt like watching a movie in VR to me. (In my experience with non-luxury headsets) It’s worse picture quality than my phone. For me, watching a movie in 4K on a TV is very very different than the equivalent of ~< 720p, blurry mess with giant god rays. If AVP can deliver on what people describe, it’s compelling. Still probably won’t buy one though
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    This is not true at all. You get full 1080p detail on a Quest, with excellent color and contrast. The AVP gets you to around 4K detail. It is nothing at all like CAM. Not in color and not in resolution. It doesn't even make sense to say that because the display specs for these devices are well known. God rays aren't really a problem watching TV content because they're most prevalent at the edges of the display, but you place your virtual screen in the middle. So they're basically a non-issue. (And TV's can have glare problems of their own if you're not watching them in the dark.)
    - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
      This has been my experience- i haven’t tried any of the newest generation, but have tried many. “any vr headset that has a virtual theatre” won’t offer a good movie watching experience
      - crazygringo 3y ago
        I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "virtual theater", but if you have an app that allows you to freely move and resize a virtual screen in a black "void", the movie-watching experience is exceptional, including on a Quest 2 or 3. I recommend using the popular SkyBox player.
        jasonjmcghee 3y ago
        I’m glad it’s gotten better. A few years ago, it was genuinely terrible. Any dark scenes looked awful, screendoor effect was huge. Haven’t tried Quest 2/3
        SirMaster 3y ago
        I've tried the Quest 3 and it's still not very good IMO. Quest 3 is still a low contrast LCD and at absolute best gives you close to a 720p virtual theater screen. I think the AVP is the first headset that can actually provide a good movie viewing expedience in a headset coming close to a full 1080p virtual screen and with high OLED contrast.
- astrange 3y ago
  Often the other people in your house would like to be excluded from the movies you're watching, for instance because they want to sleep and don't want the light leakage.
  - barbazoo 3y ago
    How many people watch tv in bed, is that a thing?
    - HDThoreaun 3y ago
      Yes it certainly is a thing
zmmmmm 3y ago
It doesn't bother you that your spouse can't see it? Even with an iPad, they are still sharing the space with you because they peripherally see what you are are doing, watching, etc. If something particularly interesting was on the screen you could point it out to them etc. I can completely believe it's mind blowing (I do it with my Quest 3), but I can't see how this isn't something that will ultimately harm your connectedness to the people around you.
lm28469 3y ago
Richest company in the world shits out a 2 kilos vr headset so we can watch the blandest Netflix original of the month from our bed between two soulless shift at work. The future is bright. At that point I'm genuinely more interested in watching a tomato grow in my garden
wilg 3y ago
3D movies suck and there's no difference between it being the size of a wall and being a laptop sitting on your lap or chest in bed. Field of view don't care about the "size". (I have a Vision Pro)