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Reading this article, it's nice to see I'm not alone in my thinking about the vision pro. Ignoring the remarks on entertainment (it's excellent!), I've believed

Reading this article, it's nice to see I'm not alone in my thinking about the vision pro. Ignoring the remarks on entertainment (it's excellent!), I've believed for several years now that VR headsets are going to replace computer monitors, and the vision pro is a step in the right direction. But a 1:1 monitor projection from my macbook is not quite enough of a benefit to merit the drawbacks of the headset. And it turns out that all of the business software I use is highly interactive, so very little, if anything at all, can be run as a separate native vision pro app. Teams? I'm not using a persona in a professional setting. Also MSFT's implementation has really low information density. Slack? I need to be able to copy and paste, and the ipad compatibility app stinks. Outlook? Again, the ipad compatibility app is no good. Excel? Give me a break. I had tried the browser first, but it turns out that I have keyboard workflows that are very efficient, and requiring my gaze to shift is no good. To add to it, the gaze tracking highlights controls all over the app when I'm just trying to type, and if I glance at another window for reference, shifts my keyboard and mouse attention. Multiple monitors projected from a real computer really would be ideal here.

no_wizard 3y ago
one wonders if there is a current niche that could be filled where they have the excellent high fidelity screen of the Vision Pro but without the hand tracking, effectively making it a monitor HUB and optimized for that, but you can still use a mouse and keyboard in addition to some head tracking, but no hand gestures, as it were. Have it entirely driven (experience wise) by the external compute.
- jbverschoor 3y ago
  I’d love to have portable multiple monitors. However, I’m not sure if that works with a MacBook Air, not sure how well it works, and not sure if I can still control my keyboard/trackpad. I don’t want to lift my arms/touch when editing text. A virtual machine or performant screensharing would work, but I haven’t experienced a good solution yet, so I don’t think it’ll be any better with the Vision Pro Everything under the condition there’s no eye and neck strain
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    Thats what I mean, with the Vision Pro, multiple reviews have pointed out you can't really use a mouse and keyboard with it because of the hand recongition. Its not meant to be part of the overall experience. My take here is that if you remove the hand recognition (gestures etc) and only keep some spatial awareness (in so much that turning your head lets you see your other "monitors") and the high fidelity multi-monitor experience, if you would have a better, sleeker product for the medium term. Doesn't even have to be Apple per say, simply a thought exercise. I think I'd use something like that, because mouse / keyboard require no visual interaction (for me at least) 99.9% of the time, and pass-through would be sufficient if I really need it from time to time, but it completely alleviates needing to buy physical monitors, is the idea.
    - jbverschoor 3y ago
      Same.. More screen real estate and spatial positioning. I just want better and more windows in something reasonably portable (travel). Even a stack of large e-ink panels I could lay on a large table would work great if the software would work properly. The immersiveness is nice and all for games and videos, but def no requirement for my means.

no_wizard 3y ago

one wonders if there is a current niche that could be filled where they have the excellent high fidelity screen of the Vision Pro but without the hand tracking, effectively making it a monitor HUB and optimized for that, but you can still use a mouse and keyboard in addition to some head tracking, but no hand gestures, as it were. Have it entirely driven (experience wise) by the external compute.

jbverschoor 3y ago
I’d love to have portable multiple monitors. However, I’m not sure if that works with a MacBook Air, not sure how well it works, and not sure if I can still control my keyboard/trackpad. I don’t want to lift my arms/touch when editing text. A virtual machine or performant screensharing would work, but I haven’t experienced a good solution yet, so I don’t think it’ll be any better with the Vision Pro Everything under the condition there’s no eye and neck strain
- no_wizard 3y ago
  Thats what I mean, with the Vision Pro, multiple reviews have pointed out you can't really use a mouse and keyboard with it because of the hand recongition. Its not meant to be part of the overall experience. My take here is that if you remove the hand recognition (gestures etc) and only keep some spatial awareness (in so much that turning your head lets you see your other "monitors") and the high fidelity multi-monitor experience, if you would have a better, sleeker product for the medium term. Doesn't even have to be Apple per say, simply a thought exercise. I think I'd use something like that, because mouse / keyboard require no visual interaction (for me at least) 99.9% of the time, and pass-through would be sufficient if I really need it from time to time, but it completely alleviates needing to buy physical monitors, is the idea.
  - jbverschoor 3y ago
    Same.. More screen real estate and spatial positioning. I just want better and more windows in something reasonably portable (travel). Even a stack of large e-ink panels I could lay on a large table would work great if the software would work properly. The immersiveness is nice and all for games and videos, but def no requirement for my means.