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It does not say that in the article - this one and on a previous HN submission where I read about this. However, you are right - if you go to Tutorials and Sca
by verisimi 3y ago
It does not say that in the article - this one and on a previous HN submission where I read about this.
However, you are right - if you go to Tutorials and Scanning there is reference to the creation of a 'campfire scroll'. And now we have some detail..... and the detail is problematic.
In tutorial 3, halfway down this page (https://scrollprize.org/tutorial3 https://scrollprize.org/tutorial3) there is a before and after comparison of the scroll. They ask a question "If you look back to the last page of the campfire scroll (before carbonization), can you see which area of the scroll this segment came from?".
This is mean to be obvious to answer - and one does have the 2 images to compare.
My thoughts on the comparison is - yes at a glance the there is a section that appears to match up - the 'angular squiggle' next to the @ symbol. However, if I look more closely at the 'angular squiggle' I see features and spaces in the generated image that do not correlate with the photo before carbonisation. The troughs are too deep, the spaces are too big. It seems to be a superficial similarity only.
I wish I could show what I mean by referencing the images.. But I will provide links for others to see what I mean when I say there is a superficial correlation only.
https://scrollprize.org/img/tutorials/vc-segment.png https://scrollprize.org/img/tutorials/vc-segment.png
https://scrollprize.org/img/tutorials/campfire-last-page.jpg https://scrollprize.org/img/tutorials/campfire-last-page.jpg
Final thought - why not map the 2 images one over the other on the site? Why ask a leading question rather than provide a proof? I hate that kind of presentation - it smacks of providing enough information for someone to make an incorrect snap judgement.
- namaria 3y agoI don't know man... implying people are publishing nonsense is what smacks the most here. If you think they are over fitting, show it, don't just air doubts idly.
- verisimi 3y agoI would post an image analysis - but the images on that site make it hard to compare before and after photos, not to mention that you can't post images here. The before pic, needs to be flipped to compare to the after pic. The before pic is not flat - it is taken on a curve. This makes it hard to use for comparisons. The after pics are terrible quality. As we are dealing with a long squiggle I can't describe it easily - people will be confused at what I am talking about. However, once you get the images more or less in a comparable state, I can see things do no line up as you would expect. The first 'peak' points a different way. The lines do not line up. Stuff like that.
- namaria 3y agoThe raw images are available on gh. I'm sure as a hn user you can figure out how to stand up a website to show how they are wrong. Good luck!