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Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.

by diath 3y ago

coldacid 3y ago
Qt?
- EasyMark 3y ago
  too many gotchas with LGPL to become a universal solutions. I wish that gtk was more stable across all platforms. I have a few on macos and some are less than ... stable... compared to on linux.
  - rubymamis 3y ago
    I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it to be. Qt is a great option imo.
  - figomore 3y ago
    I like WX.
  - scotty79 3y ago
    Has anyone been sentenced for falling into those lgpl gotchas?
  - skeletal88 3y ago
    What gotchas are there? The stuff required for doing guis is lgpl, without any kind of other licenses
  - Liquid_Fire 3y ago
    Isn't GTK also LGPL anyway?
  - jenadine 3y ago
    Electron's web engine is also LGPL. (And GTK too)
jojobas 3y ago
Native UI has been there for decades before. Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution.
- LunaSea 3y ago
  > Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Aaand you lost most companies. > Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution. I'm sure that customers will be willing to install and run Wine.
  - steve_rambo 3y ago
    Wine requires no more installation than Electron. There are lots of "pirated" releases for macOS/Linux with a bundled copy of Wine (sometimes with third party patches or some libraries swapped out).
- postalrat 3y ago
  extra effort = no less than 50x the effort
  - jojobas 3y ago
    Bullshit. If that's what it takes you please seek another line of work.
    - postalrat 3y ago
      I can built a basic app with html, javascript, etc that supports many platforms in an evening. How long do you think it would take to support windows, macos, ios, android, xbox, linux, etc, etc? Much more than 50x the time even if you already are familiar with development on all the plaforms.
      - jojobas 3y ago
        Qt covers 5 of the 6 platforms you named, and many more "etc". Yes it takes a bit more than a boot camp graduate to code that, and might take a bit more time still.
niutech 3y ago
There are many: QML, NodeGui, Flutter, React Native and plenty more lightweight Electron alternatives: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38687662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38687662 Or to mention native libs: GTK, wxWidgets, Xamarin.

Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.

by diath 3y ago

Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.

coldacid 3y ago

Qt?

EasyMark 3y ago
too many gotchas with LGPL to become a universal solutions. I wish that gtk was more stable across all platforms. I have a few on macos and some are less than ... stable... compared to on linux.
- rubymamis 3y ago
  I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it to be. Qt is a great option imo.
- figomore 3y ago
  I like WX.
- scotty79 3y ago
  Has anyone been sentenced for falling into those lgpl gotchas?
- skeletal88 3y ago
  What gotchas are there? The stuff required for doing guis is lgpl, without any kind of other licenses
- Liquid_Fire 3y ago
  Isn't GTK also LGPL anyway?
- jenadine 3y ago
  Electron's web engine is also LGPL. (And GTK too)

jojobas 3y ago

Native UI has been there for decades before. Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution.

LunaSea 3y ago
> Yes, cross-platform requires extra effort. Aaand you lost most companies. > Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution. I'm sure that customers will be willing to install and run Wine.
- steve_rambo 3y ago
  Wine requires no more installation than Electron. There are lots of "pirated" releases for macOS/Linux with a bundled copy of Wine (sometimes with third party patches or some libraries swapped out).
postalrat 3y ago
extra effort = no less than 50x the effort
- jojobas 3y ago
  Bullshit. If that's what it takes you please seek another line of work.
  - postalrat 3y ago
    I can built a basic app with html, javascript, etc that supports many platforms in an evening. How long do you think it would take to support windows, macos, ios, android, xbox, linux, etc, etc? Much more than 50x the time even if you already are familiar with development on all the plaforms.
    - jojobas 3y ago
      Qt covers 5 of the 6 platforms you named, and many more "etc". Yes it takes a bit more than a boot camp graduate to code that, and might take a bit more time still.

niutech 3y ago

There are many: QML, NodeGui, Flutter, React Native and plenty more lightweight Electron alternatives: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38687662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38687662 Or to mention native libs: GTK, wxWidgets, Xamarin.