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Why "but" rather than "and"? Do memes make it a worse front-end library?
by barnabee 3y ago
Why "but" rather than "and"? Do memes make it a worse front-end library?
- adastra22 3y agoIt’s extremely immature and unprofessional.
- awaythrow999 3y agoIt seems to have gotten the marketing job done surprisingly well considering people on HN getting outraged. I'd have never heard of it if it wasn't for this submission.
- adastra22 3y agoI would never use it because of this submission.
- barnabee 3y agoRelax. “Professionalism” of this sort is almost as nebulous a concept as it is overrated.
- recursivedoubts 3y agoi'm a one man shop in montana, competing w/ Google, Vercel & Facebook for dev mindshare if i did what everyone else does you never would have heard of htmx https://star-history.com/#bigskysoftware/htmx&Date https://star-history.com/#bigskysoftware/htmx&Date <insert jack sparrow "but you have heard of me" meme here>
- adastra22 3y agoAlright, you be you. I'll never knowingly use your code though. Maybe I'm an old fart, but to me (and others) a lack of professionalism betrays a lack of seriousness and concern for downstream users.
- recursivedoubts 3y agoi don't trust my code either, but I do trust my test suite: https://htmx.org/test/ https://htmx.org/test/ re: downstream users, I'm extremely concerned w/backwards compatibility (htmx 1.x is IE11 compatible and will be supported in perpetuity, as is intercooler.js, its predecessor), the library is dependency free, it works with any kind of back-end you'd like and doesn't demand any particular type of build system. The library is BSD-0 licensed to maximize its usefulness and I do a deep dive on the implementation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=javGxN-h9VQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=javGxN-h9VQ I've written a book on htmx and the broader ideas of hypermedia you can read for free here: https://hypermedia.systems https://hypermedia.systems and I have a series of essays on hypermedia and related topics here: https://htmx.org/essays https://htmx.org/essays I also wrote this: https://grugbrain.dev https://grugbrain.dev it is, unfortunately, silly
- fl0ki 3y agoWhen any new tech gets hyped enough, some people instinctively drag it, if not for technical reasons then for aesthetic and social ones. If the worst thing people can say about HTMX is that its creator posts memes, the tech itself must be doing pretty well.
- PedroBatista 3y agoProfessional - person who is paid to undertake a specialized set of tasks and to complete them for a fee. Lets not be literal but also lets not ignore the clues. How those wonderful technological babel towers coming from all those very serious professionals at FAANG and adjacent often with yearly marketing budgets bigger than your net worth have been treating you? Funny thing, many of those cool frameworks seem to get "deprecated" when the authors ( very professional and serious people ) get promoted or leave the company. At least they tend "sunset" the libs and frameworks in a very professional and concern way. On a less facetious note: Your "fears" are valid and common, but you are so focused on the package design you're missing the actual product.
- adastra22 3y ago
- warrenbuffering 3y ago[flagged]
- ghomem 3y agoJudging by the results it seems mature and professional enough to me, including the meme based marketing. And the mission is right too.