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> Brave is run by a homophobic, anti-vax crypto clown. I won’t dignify it here with a link. Who also invented JavaScript so I assume that the blog author has n

by jemmyw 3y ago

> Brave is run by a homophobic, anti-vax crypto clown. I won’t dignify it here with a link. Who also invented JavaScript so I assume that the blog author has nothing to do with JS. Nope, there's a whole bunch of it running on their site.

eesmith 3y ago
Using Brave helps put money into the clown's pocket. Money that could be used to, for example, to fund homophobic initiatives. Using Javascript does not. This distinction is important to many.
- jpcfl 3y ago
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  - xemoka 3y ago
    Arguments against same-sex marriage are often framed in terms of defending traditional or religious values. This is common refrain in anti-gay hate groups^1 and is used to push homophoic agendas. 1: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/06/traditional-values-potent-weapon-against-lgbt-rights https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/06/traditional-values-poten...
  - eesmith 3y ago
    "Anti-Christian"??? Most of the Christians I know support homosexual marriage. Our biggest local church helps organize the city's yearly Pride festival. Do you also think it's anti-Christian to require that if a man can lead an invitational prayer then a woman must be able to as well?
    - jpcfl 3y ago
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      - eesmith 3y ago
        "Rules"? LOL! The interpretation of the rules vary so much that there are Christians who think Catholicism (and Unitarianism!) are not Christian faiths. The repeal of Prohibition was not anti-Muslim, despite it re-legalizing alcohol. Laws regulating the production of pork for human consumption are not anti-Muslim either. The repeal of adultery laws was not anti-Christian, despite the Bible firmly prohibiting adultery. The repeal of Sunday closing laws was not anti-Christian, despite another Biblical prohibition of working on the Sabbath. (And it isn't like Christians are 100% in agreement about when the Sabbath actually is.) Laws allowing divorce are not anti-Christian, despite how some people interpret Jesus's statement in Matthew "what God has joined together, let no one separate" as meaning that a Christian marriage does not allow divorce. Just like none of those are anti-Christian, a low allowing homosexual marriage is also not anti-Christian. Millions of Christians find no disagreement between the rules of Christianity and the legalization of homosexual marriage just like millions of divorced Christians find no disagreement between the rules of Christianity and their divorce. If you think homosexual marriage is against God's will, don't marry someone of your sex. If you think it's against God's will to work on Sunday, don't do it. If you think it's against God's will to commit adultery, don't do it. If you think it's against God's will to wear clothing woven from two different kinds of thread, as stated in Leviticus, don't do it.
        jpcfl 3y ago
        I’m not here to debate theology. I’m here to point out that using epithets like homophobe to attack someone for his religious beliefs is inappropriate.
        eesmith 3y ago
        You said it was specifically anti-Christian, not this broader claim of "religious belief". Allowing secular homosexual marriage is no more anti-Christian than allowing secular divorce. We do not give carte blanche to religious viewpoints. People can hold religious beliefs which are sexist, racist, or homophobic, as you surely must know. Others are free to call them out for their sexism, racism, and homophobia. Are you going to attack a Christian whose religious belief is that his faith supports homosexual marriage? Are you going to deny that Christian his liberty to tell a homophobic Christian that those homophobic views are not Christ-like? If I have the strongly held religious belief that I must proselytize my faith, even at work during break time, and a co-worker objects and does not want to listen to my proselytizing, then under US Title VII Civil rights law my employer must stop me, even if I think it's an attack against my Christian faith, because in our secular system the religious rights of one do not override the religious rights of another. Since millions of Christians support homosexual marriage, it makes no sense to say that support for secular homosexual marriage, and opposition to those against it, is anti-Christian. The United Church of Canada, which is the largest Protestant denomination in Canada, is not anti-Christian. The Episcopal Church is not anti-Christian. The Church of Denmark, which is Denmark's state religion, is not anti-Christian. All of them support homosexual marriage not just in the secular sense but sanctified within church practices. You are free to say they don't actually follow God's Word, as clearly expressed in the Bible, but then it's more like yet another doctrinal disagreement between the Dutch Reformed Churches, which you've mistaken as a mass anti-Christian attack.

by jemmyw 3y ago

eesmith 3y ago

Using Brave helps put money into the clown's pocket. Money that could be used to, for example, to fund homophobic initiatives. Using Javascript does not. This distinction is important to many.

jpcfl 3y ago
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- deleted 3y ago
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- xemoka 3y ago
  Arguments against same-sex marriage are often framed in terms of defending traditional or religious values. This is common refrain in anti-gay hate groups^1 and is used to push homophoic agendas. 1: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/06/traditional-values-potent-weapon-against-lgbt-rights https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/06/traditional-values-poten...
- eesmith 3y ago
  "Anti-Christian"??? Most of the Christians I know support homosexual marriage. Our biggest local church helps organize the city's yearly Pride festival. Do you also think it's anti-Christian to require that if a man can lead an invitational prayer then a woman must be able to as well?
  - jpcfl 3y ago
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    - eesmith 3y ago
      "Rules"? LOL! The interpretation of the rules vary so much that there are Christians who think Catholicism (and Unitarianism!) are not Christian faiths. The repeal of Prohibition was not anti-Muslim, despite it re-legalizing alcohol. Laws regulating the production of pork for human consumption are not anti-Muslim either. The repeal of adultery laws was not anti-Christian, despite the Bible firmly prohibiting adultery. The repeal of Sunday closing laws was not anti-Christian, despite another Biblical prohibition of working on the Sabbath. (And it isn't like Christians are 100% in agreement about when the Sabbath actually is.) Laws allowing divorce are not anti-Christian, despite how some people interpret Jesus's statement in Matthew "what God has joined together, let no one separate" as meaning that a Christian marriage does not allow divorce. Just like none of those are anti-Christian, a low allowing homosexual marriage is also not anti-Christian. Millions of Christians find no disagreement between the rules of Christianity and the legalization of homosexual marriage just like millions of divorced Christians find no disagreement between the rules of Christianity and their divorce. If you think homosexual marriage is against God's will, don't marry someone of your sex. If you think it's against God's will to work on Sunday, don't do it. If you think it's against God's will to commit adultery, don't do it. If you think it's against God's will to wear clothing woven from two different kinds of thread, as stated in Leviticus, don't do it.
      - jpcfl 3y ago
        I’m not here to debate theology. I’m here to point out that using epithets like homophobe to attack someone for his religious beliefs is inappropriate.
        eesmith 3y ago
        You said it was specifically anti-Christian, not this broader claim of "religious belief". Allowing secular homosexual marriage is no more anti-Christian than allowing secular divorce. We do not give carte blanche to religious viewpoints. People can hold religious beliefs which are sexist, racist, or homophobic, as you surely must know. Others are free to call them out for their sexism, racism, and homophobia. Are you going to attack a Christian whose religious belief is that his faith supports homosexual marriage? Are you going to deny that Christian his liberty to tell a homophobic Christian that those homophobic views are not Christ-like? If I have the strongly held religious belief that I must proselytize my faith, even at work during break time, and a co-worker objects and does not want to listen to my proselytizing, then under US Title VII Civil rights law my employer must stop me, even if I think it's an attack against my Christian faith, because in our secular system the religious rights of one do not override the religious rights of another. Since millions of Christians support homosexual marriage, it makes no sense to say that support for secular homosexual marriage, and opposition to those against it, is anti-Christian. The United Church of Canada, which is the largest Protestant denomination in Canada, is not anti-Christian. The Episcopal Church is not anti-Christian. The Church of Denmark, which is Denmark's state religion, is not anti-Christian. All of them support homosexual marriage not just in the secular sense but sanctified within church practices. You are free to say they don't actually follow God's Word, as clearly expressed in the Bible, but then it's more like yet another doctrinal disagreement between the Dutch Reformed Churches, which you've mistaken as a mass anti-Christian attack.