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>ageist demeaning Doro Not everything is an ism. Doro makes phones for people with poor eyesight. Most of those people are old. Glancing at their product catal

by encom 3y ago

>ageist demeaning Doro Not everything is an ism. Doro makes phones for people with poor eyesight. Most of those people are old. Glancing at their product catalogue, it doesn't seem much different from what you're doing with Lineage OS. Not everyone will have a geeky son to make a customised Lineage phone. Doro fills a niche. Be thankful someone does.

seabass-labrax 3y ago
> Not everything is an ism. Doro makes phones for people with poor eyesight. Most of those people are old. Glancing at their product catalogue, it doesn't seem much different from what you're doing with Lineage OS. Not everyone will have a geeky son to make a customised Lineage phone. Doro fills a niche. Be thankful someone does. My father has a Doro handset. I recommended it to him based on a misunderstanding of the advertisement* and have regretted it every since. The user interface is confusingly designed, with nested menus ten levels deep in which pressing the wrong button can just delete your message, contact etc. without waiting for confirmation. The screen is tiny and low resolution - I have 20/20 eyesight and still can't see what the status icons are supposed to be! It is so awkward to change the ring volume and unclear what mode the phone's in, that my father doesn't trust it not to ring at concerts, so leaves it at home. All that leads me to the opinion that Doro is just predating on older users and their carers with the idea of being simple and accessible, whilst actually doing absolutely no real UX research. Yet, their 'dumbphones' approach the price of some basic smartphones which have hardware orders of magnitude more powerful. * This was back when 2G was new, and I incorrectly assumed that it would imply some level of internet capability on any handset new enough to support it. The device in question does not have any internet support.
- stacktrust 3y ago
  BlindShell sells a phone for vision-impaired users, with support for popular assistive apps, plus audio for NFC tags, https://blindshellusa.com https://blindshellusa.com.
  - seabass-labrax 3y ago
    That looks really nice. Little things like the reversible charging plug are absolutely critical (one elderly relative has broken a considerable number of devices by forcing the USB Micro-B cables in the wrong way round - coloured stickers to mark the plugs are obligatory). NFC tags to identify physical objects when one can't read the label are an excellent idea.
    - stacktrust 3y ago
      The team at WayAround have done a good job of integrating slightly-custom-for-small-premium NFC tags with their smartphone app and optional dedicated reader. Non-technical customers can buy tags designed for clothing buttons, magnets, stickers, clips and more. Techies can use generic tags + magic string. https://www.wayaround.com https://www.wayaround.com (custom) and https://gototags.com https://gototags.com (generic).
poulpy123 3y ago
I had a look at doro phones for my parents and all the review were bad for a quite expensive price. The best I found for older people are second hands iphones (I'm an android guy myself)

by encom 3y ago

seabass-labrax 3y ago

> Not everything is an ism. Doro makes phones for people with poor eyesight. Most of those people are old. Glancing at their product catalogue, it doesn't seem much different from what you're doing with Lineage OS. Not everyone will have a geeky son to make a customised Lineage phone. Doro fills a niche. Be thankful someone does. My father has a Doro handset. I recommended it to him based on a misunderstanding of the advertisement* and have regretted it every since. The user interface is confusingly designed, with nested menus ten levels deep in which pressing the wrong button can just delete your message, contact etc. without waiting for confirmation. The screen is tiny and low resolution - I have 20/20 eyesight and still can't see what the status icons are supposed to be! It is so awkward to change the ring volume and unclear what mode the phone's in, that my father doesn't trust it not to ring at concerts, so leaves it at home. All that leads me to the opinion that Doro is just predating on older users and their carers with the idea of being simple and accessible, whilst actually doing absolutely no real UX research. Yet, their 'dumbphones' approach the price of some basic smartphones which have hardware orders of magnitude more powerful. * This was back when 2G was new, and I incorrectly assumed that it would imply some level of internet capability on any handset new enough to support it. The device in question does not have any internet support.

stacktrust 3y ago
BlindShell sells a phone for vision-impaired users, with support for popular assistive apps, plus audio for NFC tags, https://blindshellusa.com https://blindshellusa.com.
- seabass-labrax 3y ago
  That looks really nice. Little things like the reversible charging plug are absolutely critical (one elderly relative has broken a considerable number of devices by forcing the USB Micro-B cables in the wrong way round - coloured stickers to mark the plugs are obligatory). NFC tags to identify physical objects when one can't read the label are an excellent idea.
  - stacktrust 3y ago
    The team at WayAround have done a good job of integrating slightly-custom-for-small-premium NFC tags with their smartphone app and optional dedicated reader. Non-technical customers can buy tags designed for clothing buttons, magnets, stickers, clips and more. Techies can use generic tags + magic string. https://www.wayaround.com https://www.wayaround.com (custom) and https://gototags.com https://gototags.com (generic).

poulpy123 3y ago

I had a look at doro phones for my parents and all the review were bad for a quite expensive price. The best I found for older people are second hands iphones (I'm an android guy myself)