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> I don't understand why would you care who created it The question of separating the artist from the person is not new. Let's try anyway. Not speaking for Bra
by jraph 3y ago
> I don't understand why would you care who created it
The question of separating the artist from the person is not new. Let's try anyway. Not speaking for Brave / Eich, but more generally (because I want my point to be general, not specific to Brave / Eich and I don't want this specific instance to weaken my more general point).
Say you support cause C. Say someone S makes useful product P. You know S hurts cause C (or pushes shitty thing !C), personally. And you know product P brings income to S (since it's their business), making S more powerful. You may think using P hurts cause C, thus you may want to avoid P. Or you may want to avoid P to make a point, symbolically. If only to discourage other people to act the same way.
Let's take Picasso for instance. He was an asshole [1]. He was atrocious with one or several of his friends. He broke the lives of many people including his numerous partners and raped them. Should you separate the artist from the person? You may already be convinced this is enough to want to avoid promoting Picasso or his art so you don't glorify the horrible stuff he could get away with, so future artists are not encouraged in such bad behavior for instance. Or you may not, thinking that the art exists now, and somewhat stands for itself. Turns out you actually can't really separate: looking closer, a big part of the art is related to his rapes anyway. Art does not live in a vacuum and is indeed connected to its artist: it's a reflection of the artist's life.
There might be something in how Product P works or is done that still could indirectly hurt cause C, in addition to bringing money to person S which may itself hurt C. In a way, it may be a matter of voting with one's wallet.
This stuff may or may not apply to Brave, I tried to justify why you might (want to) care where some product comes from more generally.
Of course there are many products where someone working on it is an asshole in their personal life and you just don't know about it. You might even have someone helping cause C working on product P. Now, if S notoriously hurts C, maybe there are people for C avoiding working for S (on P) and this can create a weird culture around P. Things can be a bit complicated.
Moreover, in a way, unlike your average person you may not know about, Eich chose to be public about some of the stuff he gets criticism for and so far never backtracked on this to my knowledge (because he could have). This also puts it to the next level for some.
[1] I can't vouch for any specific English source, but looking up "Picasso asshole" seems to yield numerous results. French speakers may like this video from "C'est une autre histoire": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsuLpUTs50c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsuLpUTs50c