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> I want to be in a park at night and see fiery snakes climbing all the trees. Why the fuck do you want that? Corporate graffiti on nature? I don't mind fairy

> I want to be in a park at night and see fiery snakes climbing all the trees. Why the fuck do you want that? Corporate graffiti on nature? I don't mind fairy lights on a tree in some situations. I like tree houses. I like a tree swing. Sometimes real graffiti. Because someone built something, it has value. Some random AI shoves random snakes on trees? Why not sit at home and watch TV on your couch if you don't like trees. An AR reality everyone shares at once with snakes in trees. Like a concert or a light show by an artist. Yep, but it will cost $ to visit. And it'll cost millions to create. > I want to walk into a big-box store and have a huge glowing balloon appear over the Baking Supplies. Who's going to record the data for you? People have tried to map stores for years and it'd work fine with AirPods telling you where to go, or a map on your phone. > I want floating labels to attach to all the different parts of the machine I’m trying to fix. Ikea struggles to make useful paper instructions. Brickit looks interesting, if it was done for mosaics and art like that - https://brickit.app/ https://brickit.app/ > AVP is VR not AR AVP is AR, a strange comment. If you look at the only working commercial AR, it's doctors using it to have a screen next to where they do surgery so they don't have to look away. AVP having a big display anywhere might be it's best hope.

pests 3y ago
> People have tried to map stores for years Google does a good job. I can zoom right into my local Meijer with Maps and into individual sections. > AVP is AR, a strange comment. How so? You are not looking at reality. In fact, reality is blocked. You are looking at screens.
- Someone 3y ago
  I think it’s more likely Meijer did a good job. AFAIK, both Google and Apple (mostly) rely on third parties to give them indoor map data. https://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/faqs.html https://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/faqs.html: “What does it mean to be a partner with indoor Google Maps? Google Maps Indoor partners can include their floor plans and labeled layouts of their venues in Google Maps for desktop and mobile. Visitors can see indoor maps on their mobile devices to conveniently find points of interest in supported venues.” https://register.apple.com/indoor https://register.apple.com/indoor: “Easily create detailed maps of your indoor spaces and let visitors see where they are right in your app. Organizations with large public and private spaces like airports, shopping centers, arenas, hospitals, universities, and private office buildings can register for the Indoor Maps Program. Indoor maps are built using industry standard tools and require only your existing Wi-Fi network to enable GPS-level location accuracy so visitors can navigate your spaces with ease.”
noduerme 3y ago
>> I want floating labels to attach to all the different parts of the machine I’m trying to fix. I agreed with your earlier point about how the only reason to take something in as a meaningful artistic experience is that someone else built it with intention. However I do think these AR things can be useful as professional tools. That's really where they belong, not slapped to the faces of rich dipshits wandering down 5th Avenue. For industrial design - I could see that. Personally if they dropped the price by 4/5ths, I could justify it as an alternative to constantly greasing up my tablet searching through PDFs of 1980s Chiltons manuals. If it showed me where the screws or wires went and was even correct half the time that could be worth it too. But it's one thing to dream about a world where you don't have to go read the car manual, and another thing to dream about a world where you don't have to live in reality.
j13n 3y ago
I've had a to-do item to build a collaborative AR experience for people to graffiti the world and find the creations of others. I picked up the domain OutHere and spent some time drafting the initial experience because I think it's a compelling idea, but life has gotten in the way of late.

pests 3y ago

> People have tried to map stores for years Google does a good job. I can zoom right into my local Meijer with Maps and into individual sections. > AVP is AR, a strange comment. How so? You are not looking at reality. In fact, reality is blocked. You are looking at screens.

Someone 3y ago
I think it’s more likely Meijer did a good job. AFAIK, both Google and Apple (mostly) rely on third parties to give them indoor map data. https://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/faqs.html https://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/faqs.html: “What does it mean to be a partner with indoor Google Maps? Google Maps Indoor partners can include their floor plans and labeled layouts of their venues in Google Maps for desktop and mobile. Visitors can see indoor maps on their mobile devices to conveniently find points of interest in supported venues.” https://register.apple.com/indoor https://register.apple.com/indoor: “Easily create detailed maps of your indoor spaces and let visitors see where they are right in your app. Organizations with large public and private spaces like airports, shopping centers, arenas, hospitals, universities, and private office buildings can register for the Indoor Maps Program. Indoor maps are built using industry standard tools and require only your existing Wi-Fi network to enable GPS-level location accuracy so visitors can navigate your spaces with ease.”

noduerme 3y ago

>> I want floating labels to attach to all the different parts of the machine I’m trying to fix. I agreed with your earlier point about how the only reason to take something in as a meaningful artistic experience is that someone else built it with intention. However I do think these AR things can be useful as professional tools. That's really where they belong, not slapped to the faces of rich dipshits wandering down 5th Avenue. For industrial design - I could see that. Personally if they dropped the price by 4/5ths, I could justify it as an alternative to constantly greasing up my tablet searching through PDFs of 1980s Chiltons manuals. If it showed me where the screws or wires went and was even correct half the time that could be worth it too. But it's one thing to dream about a world where you don't have to go read the car manual, and another thing to dream about a world where you don't have to live in reality.

j13n 3y ago

I've had a to-do item to build a collaborative AR experience for people to graffiti the world and find the creations of others. I picked up the domain OutHere and spent some time drafting the initial experience because I think it's a compelling idea, but life has gotten in the way of late.