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Far far more people have a biometric reader or smart token than have a cell phone. Smart phones are obviously phones and have biometrics. What you're left with
by torstenvl 3y ago
Far far more people have a biometric reader or smart token than have a cell phone.
Smart phones are obviously phones and have biometrics. What you're left with is comparing the number of people with non-smart phones (~31 million in the U.S.) to the number of people without smartphones but who have biometric tablets, Windows Hello-enabled computers, PIV cards, etc.
- kevml 3y agoDo you have statistics on the number of people who do not have smart phones but do have these other devices? I am not sure the intersection is as high as you imply.
- torstenvl 3y agoThe only people who don't use smartphones and don't have an iPad or similar tablet and don't have a recent computer... probably don't benefit enough from 2FA to justify the risk of account lockout. In my social circle, the people who don't have smart phones are: - People with disabilities that make reading from a small screen or texting a lot impractical. - People who work in harsh environments who want something more rugged than a device made out of glass. - People wary of the distraction of carrying around an entertainment device. All of these people except one also have an iPad (especially the first group, as the larger screens help a lot). The one who doesn't does have a Dell XPS 13.
- ranger_danger 3y ago[flagged]
- abdulmuhaimin 3y ago[flagged]
- ranger_danger 3y agothe sheer number of even just active phones in the world right now, vastly outnumbers the amount of biometric/card readers ever made, combined.
- torstenvl 3y agoI don't know about in the world, but there are approximately 325.4 million people in the U.S. with an active cell phone. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/how-many-americans-own-a-smartphone.html https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/how-many-america... Of those, approximately 309 million (95%) own a smartphone. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/how-many-americans-own-a-smartphone.html https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/how-many-america... Any remaining gap is filled by a single year worth of iPad sales; or filled by just U.S. DoD-issued X.509 certificate cards. It's shocking to me how many people are vastly underestimating how many biometric devices and smart tokens are in existence.
- alexdunmow 3y agoOutrageous claims require outrageous evidence.
- torstenvl 3y agoYes. They do.
- jonhohle 3y agoI would wager the number of people in the US with a smart token (I’m assuming you mean something like a Yubikey, ≈22M worldwide, most users have two) is probably close to 1:1. I would also wager the number of people with dumb phones are close (but not as close) to those having computers without any biometric capabilities (and if they have them, they’re not set up).