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What we've suddenly discovered is that having servants on-call costs a substantial amount of money. Which is what all of the gig economy services are - you hav

What we've suddenly discovered is that having servants on-call costs a substantial amount of money. Which is what all of the gig economy services are - you have always been able to get driven around - they were called limos and chauffeurs. Likewise the wealthy have been having servants fetch their dinner for decades, if not centuries. With a container ship full of VC money our industry was able to sustain an illusion for some years that servants can be had for cheap. Turns out the basic economics of having servant(s) hasn't been disrupted by technology.

NovemberWhiskey 3y ago
>you have always been able to get driven around - they were called limos and chauffeurs ... or taxis, but that's not quite so consistent with the class-war narrative.
- cupcakecommons 3y ago
  The class-war narrative is all this has ever been. Seattle, Portland and San Francisco, among others are all falling apart because of this incredibly stupid narrative. I'm not sure how it could get more obvious.
  - paxys 3y ago
    How are Seattle, Portland and San Francisco "falling apart" (outside of the narrative you see on Fox News)?
    - cupcakecommons 3y ago
      I've lived in Portland my whole life. It's pretty obvious how the city has changed for the worse in the last couple years. The commercial real estate market particularly reflects this - and many of the policies that created the downturn were completely avoidable if it wasn't for monoculture that's also present in the other cities mentioned. Do you want some kind of point by point with references? I get that it's easy to feel frustrated that places that are ostensibly progressive are so dysfunctional - and that it feels better to blame it on moronic news coverage on Fox. I really wish it wasn't the way it seems to actually be here.
    - RestlessMind 3y ago
      (As someone who voted D in 2020 election) Try standing at an intersection in SF for 5 min with kids without them getting scared. I had to do it unfortunately in SOMA (long story why) and a sketchy guy mostly on drugs scared the hell out of my kids. That is not normal and is what I personally consider "falling apart" - kids should be able to roam around freely in a healthy city.
      - elevatedastalt 3y ago
        Kids? I am a fully-grown adult man and I feel scared in SF.

NovemberWhiskey 3y ago

>you have always been able to get driven around - they were called limos and chauffeurs ... or taxis, but that's not quite so consistent with the class-war narrative.

cupcakecommons 3y ago
The class-war narrative is all this has ever been. Seattle, Portland and San Francisco, among others are all falling apart because of this incredibly stupid narrative. I'm not sure how it could get more obvious.
- paxys 3y ago
  How are Seattle, Portland and San Francisco "falling apart" (outside of the narrative you see on Fox News)?
  - cupcakecommons 3y ago
    I've lived in Portland my whole life. It's pretty obvious how the city has changed for the worse in the last couple years. The commercial real estate market particularly reflects this - and many of the policies that created the downturn were completely avoidable if it wasn't for monoculture that's also present in the other cities mentioned. Do you want some kind of point by point with references? I get that it's easy to feel frustrated that places that are ostensibly progressive are so dysfunctional - and that it feels better to blame it on moronic news coverage on Fox. I really wish it wasn't the way it seems to actually be here.
  - RestlessMind 3y ago
    (As someone who voted D in 2020 election) Try standing at an intersection in SF for 5 min with kids without them getting scared. I had to do it unfortunately in SOMA (long story why) and a sketchy guy mostly on drugs scared the hell out of my kids. That is not normal and is what I personally consider "falling apart" - kids should be able to roam around freely in a healthy city.
    - elevatedastalt 3y ago
      Kids? I am a fully-grown adult man and I feel scared in SF.