Yes. This was more to my point. There are a lot of people that like to program, but don't have a job that allows for them to program. Even if the job title woul

Yes. This was more to my point. There are a lot of people that like to program, but don't have a job that allows for them to program. Even if the job title would indicate it is a 'programming' job. Or other example. At work I'm stuck in meetings, and scrums, and bureaucracy And at home, I can code for the joy of coding. And a lot of this effort might go to open source. Just seems like there are a ton of 'software' jobs that just move paper around, and not that many that get to code. Tickets was just example. Edit: So, more high level. How many people took software jobs because they like to code, but end up not coding because a ton of software jobs are on the bureaucracy side. They get frustrated, so go home and code open source. Maybe asking here in a thread about coding in 1969. Because even coding from 1999 is no longer possible, and seems more like 'an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.'.