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When you compare any non-iPhone launch with an Apple launch there is a very detectable difference. TechCrunch live-blogs the whole damned thing. Pundits congrat

by dkrich 14y ago

When you compare any non-iPhone launch with an Apple launch there is a very detectable difference. TechCrunch live-blogs the whole damned thing. Pundits congratulate Apple for being so freaking badass. Then an MG Siegler post emerges that vaguely describes how Apple is now, seriously, for real, taking over the entire mobile market and no competitor really matters. Apple re-releases the same form factor the've had for a year and a half with an HD camera and the world climbs up their asshole. Samsung releases a phone with an updated OS and an entire host of new features including cordless charger and auto-dimming, and it's crickets. I'm just saying that a lot of the "meh" factor lives only in your mind. Perception is reality. Apple has a cool factor so anything they release is assumed to be superior. Their competitors are viewed as stodgy, clueless copycats incapable of an original idea. That was true for a while, but not anymore. Ultimately sales are what matter, and I think that the gap is going to narrow more and more between Samsung and Apple in the smartphone space. There are a lot of hardware companies that can be accused of mismanagement and an utter lack of innovation. Samsung is not one of them.

taligent 14y ago
See when you talk nonsense like that it just makes you sound like a bitter fanboy. - The reason people cover Apple is because they release one phone per year at one big event. Which sells in vast quantities, often has unique features and most importantly generates lots of user clicks i.e. revenue. That is why it gets coverage. - There were other differences between iPhone 4S and 4 e.g. single->dual CPU, single->dual HSPDA, GSM+CDMA in one phone, much better GPU, single to dual antenna, Siri as well as the camera. - There isn't anything particularly new in Samsung 3 that hasn't been seen elsewhere. Cordless charger was pioneered by Palm and auto-dimming has been on iPhone for ages. Again if there was some stand out feature it would probably get more attention. Overall if Samsung wants to be like Apple then they need to stop releasing a million phones and release one per year at one big event. And then support it.
- dkrich 14y ago
  Heh, I don't even use an Android phone. I will be buying this bad boy in June though. So you say a dual CPU and and improved GPU are worthy of the coverage and nothing in the new Samsung hasn't been done elsewhere. Well to me it is just the opposite. There is virtually nothing in the 4S that hasn't been done elsewhere, save Siri, which is a pretty much overhyped feature anyway. Tell me, which iPhone is it that dims the screen when you stop looking at it and automatically dials the number you are texting when you pick up the phone? I would love to get my hands on that one. They must have been sold out at my Verizon store when I went in.
  - ricardobeat 14y ago
    > There is virtually nothing in the 4S that hasn't been done elsewhere Siri, first BT4/LE device, wireless mirroring, iMessage, double antennas, no one had those. On top of that, hardware evolved (just like the S3) and was best in class. Apple is always just slightly ahead (sometimes behind) in the tech specs, and that is enough to make astounding success. Hardware alone doesn't sell anymore.
- fdr 14y ago
  > And then support it. This especially. I have been left quite bitter by the support situation on Android. When one takes into consideration that the low-end, but current-generation iPhone and a new Android phone cost about the same it adds insult to injury. I bought a Nexus One (this is an HTC phone, to be clear), and liked where things were going. Just shy of two years later, support was dropped. Then, my power button encountered a common fault, and I would have to mail the thing in to fix it, paying some indeterminate amount of money (but probably around $50, I gather), as well as being out a phone for a couple of weeks. It so happens I managed to acquire a Nexus S, but I would never have paid market rate, and the direction and velocity the both the built-in applications and the greater ecosystem has taken since then have left me with a very sour impression, even though there are features on Android that I very much like. Basically, I can't justify paying more than $300 for a current-gen Android device, or roughly half that of an iPhone. After all, in all but the most rare cases, your length of support from the manufacturer is less than half as long... All told, I've been an Android user for three or four years on the flagship devices starting with a G1, and since about a year ago I would have to say that my pessimism is basically monotonically increasing.
Cadsby 14y ago
I agree that the coverage Apple gets can seem over-the-top at times, however, I'm not sure why it seems to personally upset you to this degree. > Ultimately sales are what matter If I were running a company I'd argue it's profits. Nokia had (still has?) higher sales volume that anyone else in the market and look where they're at.
- dkrich 14y ago
  It's tough to take a position against the majority and not sound upset. In reality it doesn't upset me at all. Samsung is a big company and will be just fine. I think Apple is going to lose share over the next few years and that idea really seems to get people riled up. But I don't make bold statements without trying to substantiate them.

by dkrich 14y ago

taligent 14y ago

See when you talk nonsense like that it just makes you sound like a bitter fanboy. - The reason people cover Apple is because they release one phone per year at one big event. Which sells in vast quantities, often has unique features and most importantly generates lots of user clicks i.e. revenue. That is why it gets coverage. - There were other differences between iPhone 4S and 4 e.g. single->dual CPU, single->dual HSPDA, GSM+CDMA in one phone, much better GPU, single to dual antenna, Siri as well as the camera. - There isn't anything particularly new in Samsung 3 that hasn't been seen elsewhere. Cordless charger was pioneered by Palm and auto-dimming has been on iPhone for ages. Again if there was some stand out feature it would probably get more attention. Overall if Samsung wants to be like Apple then they need to stop releasing a million phones and release one per year at one big event. And then support it.

dkrich 14y ago
Heh, I don't even use an Android phone. I will be buying this bad boy in June though. So you say a dual CPU and and improved GPU are worthy of the coverage and nothing in the new Samsung hasn't been done elsewhere. Well to me it is just the opposite. There is virtually nothing in the 4S that hasn't been done elsewhere, save Siri, which is a pretty much overhyped feature anyway. Tell me, which iPhone is it that dims the screen when you stop looking at it and automatically dials the number you are texting when you pick up the phone? I would love to get my hands on that one. They must have been sold out at my Verizon store when I went in.
- ricardobeat 14y ago
  > There is virtually nothing in the 4S that hasn't been done elsewhere Siri, first BT4/LE device, wireless mirroring, iMessage, double antennas, no one had those. On top of that, hardware evolved (just like the S3) and was best in class. Apple is always just slightly ahead (sometimes behind) in the tech specs, and that is enough to make astounding success. Hardware alone doesn't sell anymore.
fdr 14y ago
> And then support it. This especially. I have been left quite bitter by the support situation on Android. When one takes into consideration that the low-end, but current-generation iPhone and a new Android phone cost about the same it adds insult to injury. I bought a Nexus One (this is an HTC phone, to be clear), and liked where things were going. Just shy of two years later, support was dropped. Then, my power button encountered a common fault, and I would have to mail the thing in to fix it, paying some indeterminate amount of money (but probably around $50, I gather), as well as being out a phone for a couple of weeks. It so happens I managed to acquire a Nexus S, but I would never have paid market rate, and the direction and velocity the both the built-in applications and the greater ecosystem has taken since then have left me with a very sour impression, even though there are features on Android that I very much like. Basically, I can't justify paying more than $300 for a current-gen Android device, or roughly half that of an iPhone. After all, in all but the most rare cases, your length of support from the manufacturer is less than half as long... All told, I've been an Android user for three or four years on the flagship devices starting with a G1, and since about a year ago I would have to say that my pessimism is basically monotonically increasing.

Cadsby 14y ago

I agree that the coverage Apple gets can seem over-the-top at times, however, I'm not sure why it seems to personally upset you to this degree. > Ultimately sales are what matter If I were running a company I'd argue it's profits. Nokia had (still has?) higher sales volume that anyone else in the market and look where they're at.

dkrich 14y ago
It's tough to take a position against the majority and not sound upset. In reality it doesn't upset me at all. Samsung is a big company and will be just fine. I think Apple is going to lose share over the next few years and that idea really seems to get people riled up. But I don't make bold statements without trying to substantiate them.