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Realize that AND acknowledge that it's been three years, and the tech has failed to take off, especially the way phones have. This could still be a V1 iPod or V

Realize that AND acknowledge that it's been three years, and the tech has failed to take off, especially the way phones have. This could still be a V1 iPod or V1 iPhone thing, but between these initial responses, the history of the market and (the biggest) a missing Steve Jobs to do his Steve Jobs thing on it, I'm just not buying it. Cook is his own brand of genius, but they haven't disrupted much since Jobs passed on.

penjelly 3y ago
searches say over 20 million meta quests 1-3 sold and tech reporting already claims quest "has gone mainstream" back in 2021, so i dont think your point holds up. What has apple done that meta has not here? My view is Meta has done far more for adoption than a product released 2 days ago and sure AVP honeymoon phase is exciting, especially so for those who've never tried VR before. https://www.techradar.com/news/oculus-quest-2-sales-figures-prove-vr-has-finally-gone-mainstream https://www.techradar.com/news/oculus-quest-2-sales-figures-...
- asadotzler 3y ago
  There are 6 million monthly users for Quest after a decade of releases. If Apple does 10X that in their first decade of AVP, highly unlikely, this will still be a huge failure of a platform with fewer than half of MacOS' users. This tech cannot evolve to something mainstreamable and was best left in the lab. This is Apple shipping a slightly improved DynaTAK when people need at least a StarTAK and people would actually like an iPhone 1. Jobs would never have released this. He's have done what he did with phones, waited until the tech was good enough that regular people could at least imagine a few versions improving it enough to love. AVP is two or three decades away from that.
  - penjelly 3y ago
    i agree. what is starTAK and dynaTAK? my searches arent revealing anything
    - ohthatsnotright 3y ago
      I think the parent just used a 'k' instead of a 'c': DynaTak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC StarTak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC

penjelly 3y ago

searches say over 20 million meta quests 1-3 sold and tech reporting already claims quest "has gone mainstream" back in 2021, so i dont think your point holds up. What has apple done that meta has not here? My view is Meta has done far more for adoption than a product released 2 days ago and sure AVP honeymoon phase is exciting, especially so for those who've never tried VR before. https://www.techradar.com/news/oculus-quest-2-sales-figures-prove-vr-has-finally-gone-mainstream https://www.techradar.com/news/oculus-quest-2-sales-figures-...

asadotzler 3y ago
There are 6 million monthly users for Quest after a decade of releases. If Apple does 10X that in their first decade of AVP, highly unlikely, this will still be a huge failure of a platform with fewer than half of MacOS' users. This tech cannot evolve to something mainstreamable and was best left in the lab. This is Apple shipping a slightly improved DynaTAK when people need at least a StarTAK and people would actually like an iPhone 1. Jobs would never have released this. He's have done what he did with phones, waited until the tech was good enough that regular people could at least imagine a few versions improving it enough to love. AVP is two or three decades away from that.
- penjelly 3y ago
  i agree. what is starTAK and dynaTAK? my searches arent revealing anything
  - ohthatsnotright 3y ago
    I think the parent just used a 'k' instead of a 'c': DynaTak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC StarTak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC