YES!! 100%, I emphatically CANNOT stand how terrible model validations are in Django (obvious vs Rails) and they are a direct result of "we do it better". full

YES!! 100%, I emphatically CANNOT stand how terrible model validations are in Django (obvious vs Rails) and they are a direct result of "we do it better". full_clean vs Form.full_clean vs DRF. It's just an absolute shit show. Even if it is better, it's just annoying and not worth the benefits. For us the overall benefits outweigh the drawbacks but I get angry every time when I need to do a model validation.