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The movie experience is available on MUCH cheaper headsets though. Sure, it's cool...but what feature really makes it worth so much aside from it having been ma

The movie experience is available on MUCH cheaper headsets though. Sure, it's cool...but what feature really makes it worth so much aside from it having been made by Apple?

Kluggy 3y ago
The picture quality is absolutely amazing. Between the Quest 2 and the Vision pro, the difference is similar to SD to HD tv (480p to 1080p). It's a huge leap forward, and for spatial videos, it's an entirely different feeling.
nilkn 3y ago
Is it, though? On the AVP it looks better than an actual theater and almost as good as a $5k 80+ inch OLED TV at home. The fidelity is incredible and well beyond anything I’ve seen before from a VR headset.
dagmx 3y ago
A movie experience is available not the same movie experience. No cheaper headset has these movies available in 4K HDR 3D with optional HFR. That has simply not existed for the home market till now. No cheaper headset has the same native streaming apps capable of delivering 4k streams. No cheaper headset has the color accuracy and resolution. You might as well make the same argument about someone upgrading from a 720p TV to a 4k one. Remember, implementation is often more important than just a feature on paper. The iPhone killed off cheaper devices that did everything it did because it did the core things better. The same goes for the iPod and the iPad. Anyone who compares features without an eye for implementation is missing the forest for the trees.
- goosedragons 3y ago
  You can watch 4K streams on a Oculus Quest with Bigscreen. They will also do 3D movies and Bigscreen rents them. HDR is missing and the resolution and color accuracy is lower but you can buy 6 Meta Quest 3s for the price. I don't think Apple has ever shipped a product with a bigger price discrepancy to it's competitors than AVP. It's not moderately more expensive and better but massively more expensive.
  - dagmx 3y ago
    You’re skipping the majority of my points. Yes you can technically do each of those things in isolation , but you literally have no way to access these mainstream movies as 4K 3D before the Vision Pro, because they were not available. You could choose one or the other, not both. and it does not matter if I can buy 7 meta quest 3s for the price. All 7 would not be able to do the things the Vision Pro enables. Maybe it doesn’t make financial sense to you, I don’t really care, because that is subjective. But let’s not be deceitful by trying to disregard the delta in quality as meaningless either.
    - goosedragons 3y ago
      Is the bitrate of the 4K 3D streams better than what's offered on the commercially available 3D Blu-rays? I've made 3D Blu-ray rips and watched them on the Quest 2 and they look pretty good. There's no technical reason a Quest device couldn't do 4K 3D movies, Disney and others just don't seem to bother for whatever reason.
      - dagmx 3y ago
        The commercial blu-rays max out at 1080p so a bitrate comparison isn’t meaningful as the delta in resolution is too high. And again, I will refer back to my point: Implementation matters more than just technical ability. Stop doing paper comparisons to soothe an ego. The fact that these companies have their services on Vision Pro and nothing else is a result of implementation It really doesn’t matter if the Quest can do something by jumping through hoops. Yeah you can rip your blu-rays, and then load them on, futz with compression etc. meanwhile a Vision Pro user can click one app and have it right there without any effort.
        goosedragons 3y ago
        It's really not. A low bitrate but high resolution can look like shit in many scenes. And there's really nothing stopping Disney or whomever from bringing 4K 3D movies to Quest. Many of the porn companies have 8K 180 degree 3D streams compatible with Quest already. It's nothing unique to the AVP.

The movie experience is available on MUCH cheaper headsets though. Sure, it's cool...but what feature really makes it worth so much aside from it having been made by Apple?

Kluggy 3y ago

The picture quality is absolutely amazing. Between the Quest 2 and the Vision pro, the difference is similar to SD to HD tv (480p to 1080p). It's a huge leap forward, and for spatial videos, it's an entirely different feeling.

nilkn 3y ago

Is it, though? On the AVP it looks better than an actual theater and almost as good as a $5k 80+ inch OLED TV at home. The fidelity is incredible and well beyond anything I’ve seen before from a VR headset.

dagmx 3y ago

A movie experience is available not the same movie experience. No cheaper headset has these movies available in 4K HDR 3D with optional HFR. That has simply not existed for the home market till now. No cheaper headset has the same native streaming apps capable of delivering 4k streams. No cheaper headset has the color accuracy and resolution. You might as well make the same argument about someone upgrading from a 720p TV to a 4k one. Remember, implementation is often more important than just a feature on paper. The iPhone killed off cheaper devices that did everything it did because it did the core things better. The same goes for the iPod and the iPad. Anyone who compares features without an eye for implementation is missing the forest for the trees.

goosedragons 3y ago
You can watch 4K streams on a Oculus Quest with Bigscreen. They will also do 3D movies and Bigscreen rents them. HDR is missing and the resolution and color accuracy is lower but you can buy 6 Meta Quest 3s for the price. I don't think Apple has ever shipped a product with a bigger price discrepancy to it's competitors than AVP. It's not moderately more expensive and better but massively more expensive.
- dagmx 3y ago
  You’re skipping the majority of my points. Yes you can technically do each of those things in isolation , but you literally have no way to access these mainstream movies as 4K 3D before the Vision Pro, because they were not available. You could choose one or the other, not both. and it does not matter if I can buy 7 meta quest 3s for the price. All 7 would not be able to do the things the Vision Pro enables. Maybe it doesn’t make financial sense to you, I don’t really care, because that is subjective. But let’s not be deceitful by trying to disregard the delta in quality as meaningless either.
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    Is the bitrate of the 4K 3D streams better than what's offered on the commercially available 3D Blu-rays? I've made 3D Blu-ray rips and watched them on the Quest 2 and they look pretty good. There's no technical reason a Quest device couldn't do 4K 3D movies, Disney and others just don't seem to bother for whatever reason.
    - dagmx 3y ago
      The commercial blu-rays max out at 1080p so a bitrate comparison isn’t meaningful as the delta in resolution is too high. And again, I will refer back to my point: Implementation matters more than just technical ability. Stop doing paper comparisons to soothe an ego. The fact that these companies have their services on Vision Pro and nothing else is a result of implementation It really doesn’t matter if the Quest can do something by jumping through hoops. Yeah you can rip your blu-rays, and then load them on, futz with compression etc. meanwhile a Vision Pro user can click one app and have it right there without any effort.
      - goosedragons 3y ago
        It's really not. A low bitrate but high resolution can look like shit in many scenes. And there's really nothing stopping Disney or whomever from bringing 4K 3D movies to Quest. Many of the porn companies have 8K 180 degree 3D streams compatible with Quest already. It's nothing unique to the AVP.