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Gotta be careful negligently and irresponsibly toying with peoples lives in a city that gets so few sunshine hours. Six days of suspension is laughable.

bobthepanda 3y ago
I mean if you think that's bad, no one has been suspended or prosecuted for this: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-police-body-cam-video-discussing-woman-hit-by-officer-rcna104618 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-police-body-cam... > Seattle police union rank-and-file leaders are under investigation after an officer was recorded on his body camera appearing to make light of the death of a woman who was killed by another officer this year, saying that she “had limited value.” > Auderer left his body camera on after responding to the South Lake Union neighborhood, where a marked patrol vehicle driven by another officer struck and killed Jaahnavi Kandula on Jan. 23. That officer had been responding to a “priority one call,” police said a day after the incident, when he hit Kandula, 23, who had been in a crosswalk. > In the brief clip, Auderer, who is vice president of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, is driving and can be heard discussing details of the incident in a call with the guild’s president, Mike Solan. > Auderer said that the officer whose vehicle struck Kandula had been “going 50” and that “that’s not out of control.” According to a police investigation report that was referred to prosecutors for review last month, the officer had been driving at 74 mph and Kandula was thrown more than 100 feet. > “That’s not reckless for a trained driver,” Auderer also said in the video, adding that he doesn’t believe “she was thrown 40 feet either.” > “But she is dead,” he said. He later laughs and says, “No, it’s a regular person.” Only Auderer’s statements are audible in the video. > "Yeah, just write a check," he also said and laughed again. “Eleven thousand dollars. She was 26 anyway,” Auderer said, misstating Kandula’s age. “She had limited value.”
- cupcakecommons 3y ago
  Could this be a natural result of the cultural shift away from viewing police work being honorable and decent like it was after 9/11? Seems like recent events could have applied selection pressure to make only those who could care less about honor or decency willing to stay in the profession. Sad all around. If a civil servant talks this way about a 23 year old grad student being killed in a fashion that would put an average citizen immediately under the jail, it's probably wood chipper time for them. What a disgrace.
  - bobthepanda 3y ago
    Seattle PD has been under a federal consent decree since 2012 due to bad behavior, so this long precedes any of the recent "anti-police" hullabaloo. https://seattlepolicemonitor.org/overview https://seattlepolicemonitor.org/overview
    - cupcakecommons 3y ago
      2012 is far past the pro police glory days that I think started to end firmly around 2008 with Occupy Wallstreet and Occupy Seattle but I get your general point
- int_19h 3y ago
  I have interacted with some Seattle PD cops in an environment where they assumed that the entirety of their audience is very sympathetic to them (a lecture on how to properly interact with police when carrying openly or concealed, delivered to a group that can be reasonably described as "right-wing militia"). Some of the most racist things I've heard in my life was from the officers delivering that lecture. And most of it wasn't even brought up deliberately - they were just telling anecdotes from their day to day work and the kinds of stories that they trade with colleagues. It goes beyond racist, too - one of them literally said that people in the neighborhood he has to work in are "all filthy disgusting animals".

bobthepanda 3y ago

I mean if you think that's bad, no one has been suspended or prosecuted for this: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-police-body-cam-video-discussing-woman-hit-by-officer-rcna104618 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-police-body-cam... > Seattle police union rank-and-file leaders are under investigation after an officer was recorded on his body camera appearing to make light of the death of a woman who was killed by another officer this year, saying that she “had limited value.” > Auderer left his body camera on after responding to the South Lake Union neighborhood, where a marked patrol vehicle driven by another officer struck and killed Jaahnavi Kandula on Jan. 23. That officer had been responding to a “priority one call,” police said a day after the incident, when he hit Kandula, 23, who had been in a crosswalk. > In the brief clip, Auderer, who is vice president of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, is driving and can be heard discussing details of the incident in a call with the guild’s president, Mike Solan. > Auderer said that the officer whose vehicle struck Kandula had been “going 50” and that “that’s not out of control.” According to a police investigation report that was referred to prosecutors for review last month, the officer had been driving at 74 mph and Kandula was thrown more than 100 feet. > “That’s not reckless for a trained driver,” Auderer also said in the video, adding that he doesn’t believe “she was thrown 40 feet either.” > “But she is dead,” he said. He later laughs and says, “No, it’s a regular person.” Only Auderer’s statements are audible in the video. > "Yeah, just write a check," he also said and laughed again. “Eleven thousand dollars. She was 26 anyway,” Auderer said, misstating Kandula’s age. “She had limited value.”

cupcakecommons 3y ago
Could this be a natural result of the cultural shift away from viewing police work being honorable and decent like it was after 9/11? Seems like recent events could have applied selection pressure to make only those who could care less about honor or decency willing to stay in the profession. Sad all around. If a civil servant talks this way about a 23 year old grad student being killed in a fashion that would put an average citizen immediately under the jail, it's probably wood chipper time for them. What a disgrace.
- bobthepanda 3y ago
  Seattle PD has been under a federal consent decree since 2012 due to bad behavior, so this long precedes any of the recent "anti-police" hullabaloo. https://seattlepolicemonitor.org/overview https://seattlepolicemonitor.org/overview
  - cupcakecommons 3y ago
    2012 is far past the pro police glory days that I think started to end firmly around 2008 with Occupy Wallstreet and Occupy Seattle but I get your general point
int_19h 3y ago
I have interacted with some Seattle PD cops in an environment where they assumed that the entirety of their audience is very sympathetic to them (a lecture on how to properly interact with police when carrying openly or concealed, delivered to a group that can be reasonably described as "right-wing militia"). Some of the most racist things I've heard in my life was from the officers delivering that lecture. And most of it wasn't even brought up deliberately - they were just telling anecdotes from their day to day work and the kinds of stories that they trade with colleagues. It goes beyond racist, too - one of them literally said that people in the neighborhood he has to work in are "all filthy disgusting animals".