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Nanny!=daycare. There are many families in the US, in NY, that make less than 10k/year.

anotherhue 3y ago
I don't quite know what point you're making. There is some state coverage but the income limits are low (50-70 for 1-2 kids) https://ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/ccap/help.php#CCAP-income https://ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/ccap/help.php#CCAP-in... Daycare outside of that is incredibly pricey, and if you're as 'blessed' as we were with a multiples pregnancy then the nanny quickly becomes cheaper. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/nyregion/child-care-nyc.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/nyregion/child-care-nyc.h... Which is to say, if you make less than 67 you get sizeable benefit, but if you earn more you are likely net negative (but child positive) until you pass about 100k. That's a scary gap.
- effingwewt 3y ago
  I'm getting at the fact that you pay more for an at-home nanny than many families- who also have kids, make in a year. You are in a ridiculously privileged state to be able to simply afford that and you act as though it's impossible to get by without it. Regular daycare costs multiples less than an at-home nanny, just as public school is far cheaper than private+tutors. So again my point is that these are not necessary expenses but chosen. And that I know right now people doing skilled and licensed labor-intensive jobs for less than 30/hr.
  - anotherhue 3y ago
    > Regular daycare costs multiples less than an at-home nanny Unless, as I said, you have a multiples pregnancy. I don't know where you're getting your figures but two infants is going to be $3k at least, and that's assuming you can transport them to the daycare facility and assuming that the hours line up with your work. 2x that for the city. I really hope I'm wrong but two adults with full time in-office jobs don't have much choice here. https://winnie.com/resources/guide-to-child-care-costs-in-new-york https://winnie.com/resources/guide-to-child-care-costs-in-ne... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/dbki6j/childcare_costs_in_nyc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/dbki6j/childcare_co... [note several years old]
yftsui 3y ago
Daycare isn't much cheaper either, take Seattle as example it is about 4200 per month, for multiples the 2nd child get a 10-15% off. A nanny will be cheaper once you have more than 1 child. Also, there is a long waitlist, so it needs really good luck to get an "offer" from the day care when you need it.

I don't quite know what point you're making. There is some state coverage but the income limits are low (50-70 for 1-2 kids) https://ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/ccap/help.php#CCAP-income https://ocfs.ny.gov/programs/childcare/ccap/help.php#CCAP-in... Daycare outside of that is incredibly pricey, and if you're as 'blessed' as we were with a multiples pregnancy then the nanny quickly becomes cheaper. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/nyregion/child-care-nyc.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/nyregion/child-care-nyc.h... Which is to say, if you make less than 67 you get sizeable benefit, but if you earn more you are likely net negative (but child positive) until you pass about 100k. That's a scary gap.

effingwewt 3y ago
I'm getting at the fact that you pay more for an at-home nanny than many families- who also have kids, make in a year. You are in a ridiculously privileged state to be able to simply afford that and you act as though it's impossible to get by without it. Regular daycare costs multiples less than an at-home nanny, just as public school is far cheaper than private+tutors. So again my point is that these are not necessary expenses but chosen. And that I know right now people doing skilled and licensed labor-intensive jobs for less than 30/hr.
- anotherhue 3y ago
  > Regular daycare costs multiples less than an at-home nanny Unless, as I said, you have a multiples pregnancy. I don't know where you're getting your figures but two infants is going to be $3k at least, and that's assuming you can transport them to the daycare facility and assuming that the hours line up with your work. 2x that for the city. I really hope I'm wrong but two adults with full time in-office jobs don't have much choice here. https://winnie.com/resources/guide-to-child-care-costs-in-new-york https://winnie.com/resources/guide-to-child-care-costs-in-ne... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/dbki6j/childcare_costs_in_nyc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/dbki6j/childcare_co... [note several years old]

yftsui 3y ago

Daycare isn't much cheaper either, take Seattle as example it is about 4200 per month, for multiples the 2nd child get a 10-15% off. A nanny will be cheaper once you have more than 1 child. Also, there is a long waitlist, so it needs really good luck to get an "offer" from the day care when you need it.