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Illinois already made it illegal for cops to lie to children during interrogations: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=070504050K5-401.

Illinois already made it illegal for cops to lie to children during interrogations: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=070504050K5-401.6 https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=0... "...if, during the custodial interrogation, a law enforcement officer or juvenile officer knowingly engages in deception." Hopefully they extend it to adult interrogations. I just did 10 years in jail waiting for trial before the charges were dropped, partially due to a bogus interrogation (that was ruled unconstitutional by the court) where I refused to talk and they badgered me for 45 minutes after that telling me I couldn't use that right and then threatened my family. That's the point you break, not when the cops hit you with a wrench, but when they threaten people you love.

WirelessGigabit 3y ago
That's quite the story. Any news reporting on your case?
- qingcharles 3y ago
  There will be once it's all finally resolved at the end of this year (I hope). Still going through the tail end of it.
candiodari 3y ago
How is this supposed to work: " ... if you say that X is wrong we throw you in youth care, you get put in a place little better than a summer camp, among criminal youngsters, with 2 adults per 30 kids that don't bring you to school, don't help with homework, where all your stuff is stolen, and we use the police to arrest you if you ever decide to leave until you're 18, when you'll likely have failed all your schooling and be thrown into the street ... " You cannot be honest to kids about youth services the way it currently exists in the US, in any state. That's just absurd.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  Everything I've heard about the institutions for criminal children is pretty horrific. Nearly everyone I spent my time with in jail was in and out of those youth jails/homes as kids and they all sound like mad-houses.
20after4 3y ago
Wow that is fucked. I'm sorry you went through that. 10 years is sickening.
- int_19h 3y ago
  There's a good chance that they won't be properly compensated for any of it, either. It is truly amazing that we call this mess a "justice system", as if justice was anywhere even close.

WirelessGigabit 3y ago

That's quite the story. Any news reporting on your case?

qingcharles 3y ago
There will be once it's all finally resolved at the end of this year (I hope). Still going through the tail end of it.

candiodari 3y ago

How is this supposed to work: " ... if you say that X is wrong we throw you in youth care, you get put in a place little better than a summer camp, among criminal youngsters, with 2 adults per 30 kids that don't bring you to school, don't help with homework, where all your stuff is stolen, and we use the police to arrest you if you ever decide to leave until you're 18, when you'll likely have failed all your schooling and be thrown into the street ... " You cannot be honest to kids about youth services the way it currently exists in the US, in any state. That's just absurd.

qingcharles 3y ago
Everything I've heard about the institutions for criminal children is pretty horrific. Nearly everyone I spent my time with in jail was in and out of those youth jails/homes as kids and they all sound like mad-houses.

20after4 3y ago

Wow that is fucked. I'm sorry you went through that. 10 years is sickening.

int_19h 3y ago
There's a good chance that they won't be properly compensated for any of it, either. It is truly amazing that we call this mess a "justice system", as if justice was anywhere even close.