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I've leased 3 Nissan Leafs from the same salesman because he has a no-bs pricing model. What he advertises is exactly what you pay, no additional fees or anythi

I've leased 3 Nissan Leafs from the same salesman because he has a no-bs pricing model. What he advertises is exactly what you pay, no additional fees or anything. He earned a bunch of #1 salesman of the year in the world awards precisely because of that, so maybe others have something to learn. Last renewal, the Nissans were out of my budget so I had to go with a different car, and I was brutally reminded of how absolutely awful the experience is: after seeing an ad online and emailing the salesguy to confirm the complete pricing, once I got there he started the dog&pony show of "let me talk to my manager", "that was actually just for one specific car which we already sold", "but that doesn't include these 7 fees we're adding to all cars", etc. It was disgusting.

rootusrootus 3y ago
The way to do it now is entirely by email. If they won't take the time to write up an actual sales agreement and sign it, stop talking to them. Never ever go into a dealership with just a promise to act in good faith.
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> I've leased 3 Nissan Leafs from the same salesman because he has a no-bs pricing model. What he advertises is exactly what you pay, no additional fees or anything. He earned a bunch of #1 salesman of the year in the world awards precisely because of that, so maybe others have something to learn. This is what Saturn did in the 1990s across the entire brand and customers loved it. Then they stopped making their own cars. The Saturn Ion was a Chevy Cobalt with a Saturn badge. But that doesn't work because they can't set the Saturn price in a way that saves both the customer and the dealer the trouble of haggling or customers wouldn't go to the Chevy dealer, whereas if they set the same MSRP for the same car then customers go to the Chevy dealer so they can haggle for a discount. And you can't split the difference or customers self-select and nobody pays MSRP at the Chevy dealer. Then when that didn't work they discontinued the brand instead of going back to the original model.

rootusrootus 3y ago

The way to do it now is entirely by email. If they won't take the time to write up an actual sales agreement and sign it, stop talking to them. Never ever go into a dealership with just a promise to act in good faith.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

> I've leased 3 Nissan Leafs from the same salesman because he has a no-bs pricing model. What he advertises is exactly what you pay, no additional fees or anything. He earned a bunch of #1 salesman of the year in the world awards precisely because of that, so maybe others have something to learn. This is what Saturn did in the 1990s across the entire brand and customers loved it. Then they stopped making their own cars. The Saturn Ion was a Chevy Cobalt with a Saturn badge. But that doesn't work because they can't set the Saturn price in a way that saves both the customer and the dealer the trouble of haggling or customers wouldn't go to the Chevy dealer, whereas if they set the same MSRP for the same car then customers go to the Chevy dealer so they can haggle for a discount. And you can't split the difference or customers self-select and nobody pays MSRP at the Chevy dealer. Then when that didn't work they discontinued the brand instead of going back to the original model.