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"Turn your head left and right" probably has less than two years left to it as a security measure, and I feel I'm being generous on that. I seriously can't imag

by jerf 3y ago

"Turn your head left and right" probably has less than two years left to it as a security measure, and I feel I'm being generous on that. I seriously can't imagine that we've made it as far as we have with this sort of AI, but that's the wall we're going to hit beyond which math simply says "nope, you can't do that". "Take a picture holding the ID" won't have much longer. The simple truth is that remote identity verification of this sort may simply be impossible in the near future. There's nothing intrinsically identifying about a video stream. It's just numbers. It isn't something you have, are, or know. We were floating along on "it's really hard to forge" but that on its own is not one of the ways of authenticating someone.

zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
In person kyc then a soul bound NFT for online ID
- Karrot_Kream 3y ago
  Agreed, but then you need to have some sort of blessed entity perform that KYC and create all the UX necessary to deal with losing your individual NFT Identity. And then of course you question what the point of having a public blockchain is at all. Use a private chain like Hyperledger instead with authorized validators being a consortium of government entities.
  - intotheabyss 3y ago
    You'd want to use a KYC'd L2 that is still secured by the L1. The consortium would just validate transactions on the L2, and the security overhead is payed for by publishing to L1, so no need for validators actually validating and retaining blocks/data. Just a single. or multiple centralized sequencers. That way you also still have access to liquidity if you want additional KYC'd financial services (like for services using USDC), while also having the benefit of a closed carefully monitored system.
    - Karrot_Kream 3y ago
      That's only if access to liquidity is important to you or you think you'd benefit from the infrastructure already present on an L1. I'd argue for the use case of identity verification, you don't need any of that. Bless a set of core validators run by the federal government or some other central entity contracted out to by the government. Everyone else just runs on this chain. You'll have no throughput issues because your blessed validators are the only ones gating blocks on the chain. You'll also be able to upgrade the chain and other things in a centrally coordinated manner.

by jerf 3y ago

zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago

In person kyc then a soul bound NFT for online ID

Karrot_Kream 3y ago
Agreed, but then you need to have some sort of blessed entity perform that KYC and create all the UX necessary to deal with losing your individual NFT Identity. And then of course you question what the point of having a public blockchain is at all. Use a private chain like Hyperledger instead with authorized validators being a consortium of government entities.
- intotheabyss 3y ago
  You'd want to use a KYC'd L2 that is still secured by the L1. The consortium would just validate transactions on the L2, and the security overhead is payed for by publishing to L1, so no need for validators actually validating and retaining blocks/data. Just a single. or multiple centralized sequencers. That way you also still have access to liquidity if you want additional KYC'd financial services (like for services using USDC), while also having the benefit of a closed carefully monitored system.
  - Karrot_Kream 3y ago
    That's only if access to liquidity is important to you or you think you'd benefit from the infrastructure already present on an L1. I'd argue for the use case of identity verification, you don't need any of that. Bless a set of core validators run by the federal government or some other central entity contracted out to by the government. Everyone else just runs on this chain. You'll have no throughput issues because your blessed validators are the only ones gating blocks on the chain. You'll also be able to upgrade the chain and other things in a centrally coordinated manner.