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This is a super goofy thing to say about Dartmouth admissions, because as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score. I'm

This is a super goofy thing to say about Dartmouth admissions, because as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score. I'm beginning to think a lot of the people commenting on these things have this weird concept of these schools admitting poor kids from the sticks and asian kids from Chinatowns with no resume items except good grades and test scores....it's true they have much lower standards for them, but they still need to have a decently "pointy" resume to get in. The only way Dartmouth can fix it's "equity" problems is by shutting down for good.

gnicholas 3y ago
> as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score FYI the middle 50 is 1480 to 1560 for the class of 2028: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptance-rate/#class-of-2028-acceptance https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptanc...
- laidoffamazon 3y ago
  The people that get a 1480 (a high score, but not considered a high score by students at Dartmouth) are likely athletes or people that are in some other form of affirmative action - from underrepresented states, have legacy status, or have some other hook. I know a handful of people that got into Dartmouth and equivalent Ivies, none had an SAT score that low and this is from middle class high schools in the surburban south, not even the rich public schools, selective magnet schools, or prep schools.
scythe 3y ago
If expected admission scores are too close to perfect, the tests should be harder.
- laidoffamazon 3y ago
  At some point we have to wonder what kind of institution are we are encouraging here - are we trying to educate the public, or create an elite ruling class that spits on the rest of us? We have to choose. I remember a time when CUNY schools would accept nearly everyone but had more Nobel Laureates than all of China even today. Perhaps this is a better model.

gnicholas 3y ago

> as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score FYI the middle 50 is 1480 to 1560 for the class of 2028: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptance-rate/#class-of-2028-acceptance https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptanc...

laidoffamazon 3y ago
The people that get a 1480 (a high score, but not considered a high score by students at Dartmouth) are likely athletes or people that are in some other form of affirmative action - from underrepresented states, have legacy status, or have some other hook. I know a handful of people that got into Dartmouth and equivalent Ivies, none had an SAT score that low and this is from middle class high schools in the surburban south, not even the rich public schools, selective magnet schools, or prep schools.

scythe 3y ago

If expected admission scores are too close to perfect, the tests should be harder.

laidoffamazon 3y ago
At some point we have to wonder what kind of institution are we are encouraging here - are we trying to educate the public, or create an elite ruling class that spits on the rest of us? We have to choose. I remember a time when CUNY schools would accept nearly everyone but had more Nobel Laureates than all of China even today. Perhaps this is a better model.