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What, you mean kids from a disadvantaged background can't build a 10 page CV filled with outreach, volunteering, expensive sports and musical practice by the ti

What, you mean kids from a disadvantaged background can't build a 10 page CV filled with outreach, volunteering, expensive sports and musical practice by the time they're 18? They don't have an instinctive feel for the current pieties, bred into them since they're 3, to put in their admission essays?

candiodari 3y ago
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- mrchucklepants 3y ago
  You may have missed the sarcasm here.
- sauwan 3y ago
  Pretty sure that was sarcasm...
- choilive 3y ago
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laidoffamazon 3y ago
This is a super goofy thing to say about Dartmouth admissions, because as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score. I'm beginning to think a lot of the people commenting on these things have this weird concept of these schools admitting poor kids from the sticks and asian kids from Chinatowns with no resume items except good grades and test scores....it's true they have much lower standards for them, but they still need to have a decently "pointy" resume to get in. The only way Dartmouth can fix it's "equity" problems is by shutting down for good.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  > as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score FYI the middle 50 is 1480 to 1560 for the class of 2028: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptance-rate/#class-of-2028-acceptance https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptanc...
  - laidoffamazon 3y ago
    The people that get a 1480 (a high score, but not considered a high score by students at Dartmouth) are likely athletes or people that are in some other form of affirmative action - from underrepresented states, have legacy status, or have some other hook. I know a handful of people that got into Dartmouth and equivalent Ivies, none had an SAT score that low and this is from middle class high schools in the surburban south, not even the rich public schools, selective magnet schools, or prep schools.
- scythe 3y ago
  If expected admission scores are too close to perfect, the tests should be harder.
  - laidoffamazon 3y ago
    At some point we have to wonder what kind of institution are we are encouraging here - are we trying to educate the public, or create an elite ruling class that spits on the rest of us? We have to choose. I remember a time when CUNY schools would accept nearly everyone but had more Nobel Laureates than all of China even today. Perhaps this is a better model.
yumraj 3y ago
No they are supposed to put their sob story and life’s traumas that shaped them into their college essay. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MyD0m7JXgjA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MyD0m7JXgjA
- jandrese 3y ago
  Maybe it's an either-or thing? You either write about how you were in every club and did outreach and volunteer work and everything, or you write the sob story about how you wanted to be in all of the clubs but your mom's cancer meant you had to stay home and care for the 14 other kids instead.
titanomachy 3y ago
piety (n.) a belief or point of view that is accepted with unthinking conventional reverence. TIL. I only knew the other definition, "the quality of being religious or reverent".

candiodari 3y ago

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mrchucklepants 3y ago
You may have missed the sarcasm here.
sauwan 3y ago
Pretty sure that was sarcasm...
choilive 3y ago
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laidoffamazon 3y ago

This is a super goofy thing to say about Dartmouth admissions, because as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score. I'm beginning to think a lot of the people commenting on these things have this weird concept of these schools admitting poor kids from the sticks and asian kids from Chinatowns with no resume items except good grades and test scores....it's true they have much lower standards for them, but they still need to have a decently "pointy" resume to get in. The only way Dartmouth can fix it's "equity" problems is by shutting down for good.

gnicholas 3y ago
> as of 2019 they expected admits to have all of that and have a 1550+/35+ test score FYI the middle 50 is 1480 to 1560 for the class of 2028: https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptance-rate/#class-of-2028-acceptance https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/dartmouth-acceptanc...
- laidoffamazon 3y ago
  The people that get a 1480 (a high score, but not considered a high score by students at Dartmouth) are likely athletes or people that are in some other form of affirmative action - from underrepresented states, have legacy status, or have some other hook. I know a handful of people that got into Dartmouth and equivalent Ivies, none had an SAT score that low and this is from middle class high schools in the surburban south, not even the rich public schools, selective magnet schools, or prep schools.
scythe 3y ago
If expected admission scores are too close to perfect, the tests should be harder.
- laidoffamazon 3y ago
  At some point we have to wonder what kind of institution are we are encouraging here - are we trying to educate the public, or create an elite ruling class that spits on the rest of us? We have to choose. I remember a time when CUNY schools would accept nearly everyone but had more Nobel Laureates than all of China even today. Perhaps this is a better model.

yumraj 3y ago

No they are supposed to put their sob story and life’s traumas that shaped them into their college essay. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MyD0m7JXgjA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MyD0m7JXgjA

jandrese 3y ago
Maybe it's an either-or thing? You either write about how you were in every club and did outreach and volunteer work and everything, or you write the sob story about how you wanted to be in all of the clubs but your mom's cancer meant you had to stay home and care for the 14 other kids instead.

titanomachy 3y ago

piety (n.) a belief or point of view that is accepted with unthinking conventional reverence. TIL. I only knew the other definition, "the quality of being religious or reverent".