> And of course, the complainer's personal use of polluting energy is always objectively correct and morally just. Please tell me where it's possible to live i

> And of course, the complainer's personal use of polluting energy is always objectively correct and morally just. Please tell me where it's possible to live in modern society right now without any use of polluting energy. Seems to me like https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som... > immediately offsetting a product/service's carbon footprint. What offsetting do you find acceptable? Most carbon offsets sold are complete bunk, thus costing very little. Stuff we can be sure about (like DAC) are well over 500€/ton right now, implemented now this would be sure to lead to riots, especially since it'll probably affect people with less income the most (relative to their income). A carbon price is a great mechanism, but one this high is (IMHO) unworkable and there needs to be accompanying measures to ensure that the carbon price isn't so low as to be ineffective, not strain citizens to much and not make local industry non-competitive. If we only implemented it for non-strictly-necessary stuff (like meat, flights, big cars, cars outside rural areas, living and heating a larger dwelling over 18°, ), it would still be very unpopular (and probably lead to riots)