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Is there a source to this statement?

twixfel 3y ago
We were all there, the US and UK were warning about the invasion for a long time before it happened. The Russians and their useful idiots in the West laughed, of course they would never invade! Then the invasion actually did happen and now magically history has been rewritten and it was the US that somehow caused it in the first place. Only problem: I do have a memory and I can remember 2 years ago. So yes very clearly Russia started this war all by themselves despite the US trying to dissuade them from doing so.
- ecommerceguy 3y ago
  Are you saying Ukraine has not been lobbing bombs into Donbass for the better part of 10 years?
  - pb7 3y ago
    Can you remind us what happened roughly 10 years ago?
    - skotobaza 3y ago
      Maidan revolution
  - twixfel 3y ago
    Are you saying that Russia didn't invade Ukraine?
    - ecommerceguy 3y ago
      I'm saying they defended Russian people that would rather be living in Russian territory. Warmongers be damned!
      - The_Colonel 3y ago
        In the 1991 independence vote, all Ukrainian regions voted for independence. In Donbas, the approval was 84%! In the last census (2001), about 58% of Donetsk/Luhansk inhabitants indicated Ukrainian ethnicity, in comparison to 38% for Russian ethnicity.
        ecommerceguy 3y ago
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        thriftwy 3y ago
        What if Donbass took a tour of independent Ukraine and changed their mind, especially as Kiev crowds have ousted the president that they all voted for? Granted, he wasn't any good, but he was likely the best one Ukraine will ever have, and now has no chance of it ever catching up with 2013. I'm genuinely not sure why you think people can't change their mind. After all, they also voted "Yes" on Gorbachev's "reform and keep the USSR" referendum a year before that.
      - twixfel 3y ago
        Yeah no different to Hitler taking the Sudetenland really. Pity to see such flagrant ethnofascism here.
      - piva00 3y ago
        Lol, you completely forgot about the little green men affair when Russia absolutely denied they were invading the Donbas and all was just local militias fighting for independence, right? You've been played by Russian propaganda, and seems to be liking it.
  - nerdix 3y ago
    That's called a civil war because the Donbass is Ukrainian territory. Ukraine was not attacking Russia.

We were all there, the US and UK were warning about the invasion for a long time before it happened. The Russians and their useful idiots in the West laughed, of course they would never invade! Then the invasion actually did happen and now magically history has been rewritten and it was the US that somehow caused it in the first place. Only problem: I do have a memory and I can remember 2 years ago. So yes very clearly Russia started this war all by themselves despite the US trying to dissuade them from doing so.

ecommerceguy 3y ago
Are you saying Ukraine has not been lobbing bombs into Donbass for the better part of 10 years?
- pb7 3y ago
  Can you remind us what happened roughly 10 years ago?
  - skotobaza 3y ago
    Maidan revolution
- twixfel 3y ago
  Are you saying that Russia didn't invade Ukraine?
  - ecommerceguy 3y ago
    I'm saying they defended Russian people that would rather be living in Russian territory. Warmongers be damned!
    - The_Colonel 3y ago
      In the 1991 independence vote, all Ukrainian regions voted for independence. In Donbas, the approval was 84%! In the last census (2001), about 58% of Donetsk/Luhansk inhabitants indicated Ukrainian ethnicity, in comparison to 38% for Russian ethnicity.
      - ecommerceguy 3y ago
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      - thriftwy 3y ago
        What if Donbass took a tour of independent Ukraine and changed their mind, especially as Kiev crowds have ousted the president that they all voted for? Granted, he wasn't any good, but he was likely the best one Ukraine will ever have, and now has no chance of it ever catching up with 2013. I'm genuinely not sure why you think people can't change their mind. After all, they also voted "Yes" on Gorbachev's "reform and keep the USSR" referendum a year before that.
    - twixfel 3y ago
      Yeah no different to Hitler taking the Sudetenland really. Pity to see such flagrant ethnofascism here.
    - piva00 3y ago
      Lol, you completely forgot about the little green men affair when Russia absolutely denied they were invading the Donbas and all was just local militias fighting for independence, right? You've been played by Russian propaganda, and seems to be liking it.
- nerdix 3y ago
  That's called a civil war because the Donbass is Ukrainian territory. Ukraine was not attacking Russia.