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> Nobody who buys the car is voting for it to spy on them, unless I guess their hypothetical dystopian future insurance gives them a bonus/discount for allowing

> Nobody who buys the car is voting for it to spy on them, unless I guess their hypothetical dystopian future insurance gives them a bonus/discount for allowing them to view the data from the vehicle and they're actually okay with that. This is not the future, it is today. https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/ https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/ https://www.geico.com/driveeasy/ https://www.geico.com/driveeasy/ https://www.allstate.com/drivewise https://www.allstate.com/drivewise https://www.amica.com/content/microsites/streetsmart.html https://www.amica.com/content/microsites/streetsmart.html https://www.statefarm.com/customer-care/download-mobile-apps/drive-safe-and-save-mobile https://www.statefarm.com/customer-care/download-mobile-apps... Also, almost nobody cares that their car manufacturer can track their car’s location. They already accept that they have a mobile device on them that tracks them everywhere, and at least the mobile networks plus government knows where they are. And they also use electronic payments everywhere with “loyalty” discounts so all the banks/payment networks know where they are, and so do merchants.

LoganDark 3y ago
> This is not the future, it is today. Those are mobile apps that don't integrate with the actual vehicle.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  At least Progressive have an option for a device that connects to the ODB2 port. But either way, the system of discounts in exchange for more accurate driving data already exists. It is just a matter of a business deal working out between the automakers and insurance company to have it built in. Although, I do not see it as necessary. Cars with cameras will automatically start having lower insurance premiums, and so you will see people opt to buy cars with cameras (eliminating the inconvenience of having to install a dash cam by yourself).

LoganDark 3y ago

> This is not the future, it is today. Those are mobile apps that don't integrate with the actual vehicle.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
At least Progressive have an option for a device that connects to the ODB2 port. But either way, the system of discounts in exchange for more accurate driving data already exists. It is just a matter of a business deal working out between the automakers and insurance company to have it built in. Although, I do not see it as necessary. Cars with cameras will automatically start having lower insurance premiums, and so you will see people opt to buy cars with cameras (eliminating the inconvenience of having to install a dash cam by yourself).