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Which homeland? My view of society extends beyond american borders, and it is not improved by the US drone bombing teenagers a world away.
by giraffe_lady 3y ago
Which homeland? My view of society extends beyond american borders, and it is not improved by the US drone bombing teenagers a world away.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoI agree there's not a consensus on this kind of thing. My main takeaway is that voting (and organizing votes) really matters a lot.
- giraffe_lady 3y ago"Should we violate the borders of other countries to bomb their citizens when it serves our interest" doesn't actually seem to be an issue americans get a meaningful vote-based choice about though. Bother parties seem to love that shit!
- laidoffamazon 3y agoThe United States is the sole superpower and the only bulwark against illiberalism and authoritarianism so that one
- giraffe_lady 3y agoHave you considered the possibility that your fifth grade social studies teacher was not explaining the entire situation to you?
- laidoffamazon 3y agoYes, I was far more anti-America when I was in fifth grade. Thankfully I grew out of that after traveling and realizing it doesn’t get better than this.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoYeah man, the countries getting couped and bombed are going to be worse places to be than the ones doing the couping and bombing. It doesn't get better than this because we don't allow it to. The US using global violence to serve its own interests is effective! You may selfishly and amorally support this because of its benefits to you. It's not consistent to claim that this opposes "illiberalism and authoritarianism" when during the last century the US has overthrown more liberal democracies in favor of despots than everyone else combined.
- laidoffamazon 3y agoYeah, ok, I went through my Zinn/Chomsky phase too, it's fine, we all get through it. For me it took seeing a President that hated America (#45) to really understand why this line of thinking was so flawed.
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