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I feel sorry for Volozh, he managed to keep his business for longer than many others. It is interesting that a part of the deal is paid in yuan, probably to av

I feel sorry for Volozh, he managed to keep his business for longer than many others. It is interesting that a part of the deal is paid in yuan, probably to avoid Western sanctions. This is the new reality in which Russian businesses do exist now and may be a sign of the fragmentation of the global financial system. Also interesting is that while Volozh now resides in Israel, Yandex was very active in UAE recently with taxi, food and groceries delivery services. I doubt that anything will change because of the massacre in Gaza.

csomar 3y ago
> Also interesting is that while Volozh now resides in Israel, Yandex was very active in UAE UAE is on friendly terms with Israel (at least for now). They have also been aggressively targeting US tech refugees (ie: telegram, binance).
- alephnerd 3y ago
  That's not the reason. Around 20% of Israelis immigrated from the Soviet Union 20-30 years ago, and Russia and Ukraine still have fairly large Jewish communities. Volozh is himself Russian Jewish, so it makes sense he decided to take up Israeli citizenship instead of keeping his Russian one. A lot of Ukrainian and Russian Jews did that right after 2022. Dubai has a fairly large CIS diaspora (around 1.5-2% of the entire population) so it's unsurprising that Yandex is fairly popular there. Russian services are decently popular in Israel for similar reasons as well.
  - csomar 3y ago
    I was answering on the assumption that the previous poster was surprised about the UAE/Israel relation. Maybe I misread him.
    - ivan_gammel 3y ago
      No, I was not surprised. It’s like a flavor of complicated Middle Eastern politics that is interesting to observe.
wodenokoto 3y ago
Other than a billboard for a gps routing service I haven’t seen anything resembling Yandex here in Dubai.
- smugglerFlynn 3y ago
  They use different branding outside of Russia: https://www.reuters.com/technology/ride-hailing-app-yango-set-up-global-office-dubai-2023-10-18/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/ride-hailing-app-yango-se...
thriftwy 3y ago
If we look at the tech giants, almost none of them has retained the original founders at the helm, and I guess for the same reason that leading a huge corporation requires a very specific life style and compromises, than tech founders are used to. I believe Arkady Volozh could continue to lead Yandex but he would have to turn into Herman Gref, in terms of loyalties, how he spends his time and the people who he will have to interact with. He choose not to, and that was perhaps a decade ago.
snird 3y ago
The massacre was in Israel, when Hamas mass raped and murdered Israelis. What happens in Gaza is a justified war to prevent such attacks from occuring again.
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  Israeli invasion killed alread > 1% of total population of Gaza, further 2-3% have been iniured. According to you, did Israel get a blank check? Are they justified to do literally anything? Whst if the killed percentage will go to 5, 10 %. Still fine?
  - KikoHeit 3y ago
    What is your suggestion? Terrorists get a rape and murder free-pass because they hide behind civilians? War is shit. It's even shittier when you fight terrorists with no regards to human lives.
    - The_Colonel 3y ago
      My first suggestion would be to not sponsor those terrorists by the Israeli government currently in power. [1] That would be a good start. I have some other ideas, like stopping the apartheid regime in West Bank and blockade of Gaza. Maybe even acknowledging that Palestinians want, and deserve, their own state. [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
      - KikoHeit 3y ago
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      - gryzzly 3y ago
        so, stopping the "apartheid regime" would stop the rocket fire from Gaza you believe? was there also "apartheid" in gaza before October 7? like, literally, now, while hostages are in the tunnels and they launched 10k rockets into Israel, they should be stopping the apartheid regime? AND blockade of Gaza, so Iran, Turkey, Russia etc. can bring in weapons unchecked, right? That’s what’s gonna make everyone safe, and bring in the democratic process the that the world believes will resolve the conflict? You believe that?

csomar 3y ago

> Also interesting is that while Volozh now resides in Israel, Yandex was very active in UAE UAE is on friendly terms with Israel (at least for now). They have also been aggressively targeting US tech refugees (ie: telegram, binance).

alephnerd 3y ago
That's not the reason. Around 20% of Israelis immigrated from the Soviet Union 20-30 years ago, and Russia and Ukraine still have fairly large Jewish communities. Volozh is himself Russian Jewish, so it makes sense he decided to take up Israeli citizenship instead of keeping his Russian one. A lot of Ukrainian and Russian Jews did that right after 2022. Dubai has a fairly large CIS diaspora (around 1.5-2% of the entire population) so it's unsurprising that Yandex is fairly popular there. Russian services are decently popular in Israel for similar reasons as well.
- csomar 3y ago
  I was answering on the assumption that the previous poster was surprised about the UAE/Israel relation. Maybe I misread him.
  - ivan_gammel 3y ago
    No, I was not surprised. It’s like a flavor of complicated Middle Eastern politics that is interesting to observe.

wodenokoto 3y ago

Other than a billboard for a gps routing service I haven’t seen anything resembling Yandex here in Dubai.

smugglerFlynn 3y ago
They use different branding outside of Russia: https://www.reuters.com/technology/ride-hailing-app-yango-set-up-global-office-dubai-2023-10-18/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/ride-hailing-app-yango-se...

thriftwy 3y ago

If we look at the tech giants, almost none of them has retained the original founders at the helm, and I guess for the same reason that leading a huge corporation requires a very specific life style and compromises, than tech founders are used to. I believe Arkady Volozh could continue to lead Yandex but he would have to turn into Herman Gref, in terms of loyalties, how he spends his time and the people who he will have to interact with. He choose not to, and that was perhaps a decade ago.

snird 3y ago

The massacre was in Israel, when Hamas mass raped and murdered Israelis. What happens in Gaza is a justified war to prevent such attacks from occuring again.

The_Colonel 3y ago
Israeli invasion killed alread > 1% of total population of Gaza, further 2-3% have been iniured. According to you, did Israel get a blank check? Are they justified to do literally anything? Whst if the killed percentage will go to 5, 10 %. Still fine?
- KikoHeit 3y ago
  What is your suggestion? Terrorists get a rape and murder free-pass because they hide behind civilians? War is shit. It's even shittier when you fight terrorists with no regards to human lives.
  - The_Colonel 3y ago
    My first suggestion would be to not sponsor those terrorists by the Israeli government currently in power. [1] That would be a good start. I have some other ideas, like stopping the apartheid regime in West Bank and blockade of Gaza. Maybe even acknowledging that Palestinians want, and deserve, their own state. [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...
    - KikoHeit 3y ago
      [dead]
    - gryzzly 3y ago
      so, stopping the "apartheid regime" would stop the rocket fire from Gaza you believe? was there also "apartheid" in gaza before October 7? like, literally, now, while hostages are in the tunnels and they launched 10k rockets into Israel, they should be stopping the apartheid regime? AND blockade of Gaza, so Iran, Turkey, Russia etc. can bring in weapons unchecked, right? That’s what’s gonna make everyone safe, and bring in the democratic process the that the world believes will resolve the conflict? You believe that?