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Sure they can. But currently using an ICE is cheaper than using an EV and they have made it more like this. > I am not even sure using a large EV is better tha

by quonn 3y ago

Sure they can. But currently using an ICE is cheaper than using an EV and they have made it more like this. > I am not even sure using a large EV is better than a small ICE once you take into account other forms of pollution, road damage, congestion Where did I mention large EV? I'm mentioning a normal EV and comparing that to an equally sized ICE. Why would anyone compare a large EV with a small ICE? It's a strange and dishonest comparison. Large cars are not significantly longer (they are higher and fatter) and congestions does not occur due to this car size. Cars need to keep a large distance between each other for safety. Even a small ICE car will very quickly emit more than the production of an average EV car ever could. In a city there is the added benefit that EVs are silent and do not emit locally which matters.

graemep 3y ago
> Sure they can. But currently using an ICE is cheaper than using an EV and they have made it more like this. Running would depend on prices of petrol and electricity. Have you checked what they are in Paris? Overall costs depends on that and purchase cost and usage. An ICE car is cheaper for me because I do very low mileage (a few thousand mile a year, almost none in heavy traffic), I imagine it would be very different for commuters. > Why would anyone compare a large EV with a small ICE? It's a strange and dishonest comparison. Because the whole point of the charges is to encourage people to use a lighter car. The weight difference between small and large cars is far bigger than that between EV and ICE of the same size. You have also not considered other forms of pollution in use (you mentioned production, which is another issue) or road damage and safety (which is directly related to weight). > Large cars are not significantly longer (they are higher and fatter) Really not longer? Current Range Rovers are about 5 meters long, that is about 20% longer than typical hatchback. Wider also causes congestion as people need to slow to pass each other more often.

by quonn 3y ago

graemep 3y ago

> Sure they can. But currently using an ICE is cheaper than using an EV and they have made it more like this. Running would depend on prices of petrol and electricity. Have you checked what they are in Paris? Overall costs depends on that and purchase cost and usage. An ICE car is cheaper for me because I do very low mileage (a few thousand mile a year, almost none in heavy traffic), I imagine it would be very different for commuters. > Why would anyone compare a large EV with a small ICE? It's a strange and dishonest comparison. Because the whole point of the charges is to encourage people to use a lighter car. The weight difference between small and large cars is far bigger than that between EV and ICE of the same size. You have also not considered other forms of pollution in use (you mentioned production, which is another issue) or road damage and safety (which is directly related to weight). > Large cars are not significantly longer (they are higher and fatter) Really not longer? Current Range Rovers are about 5 meters long, that is about 20% longer than typical hatchback. Wider also causes congestion as people need to slow to pass each other more often.