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It's a selfish thing to do. Nonetheless nothing I condemn. At the end of the day it's harder not to have kids and stop this cycle than not, thanks to evolutio
by menschmanfred 3y ago
It's a selfish thing to do.
Nonetheless nothing I condemn.
At the end of the day it's harder not to have kids and stop this cycle than not, thanks to evolution.
- anonymousDan 3y agoWhat nonsense. Having kids is not selfish.
- bluescrn 3y agoWhat is the goal of humanity? To maximise quality of life, maximise duration of life, or maximise the numer of humans? At the moment, we seem to be aiming for 'maximum number of humans'. But in a world of climate crisis and depleted resources, that means ever-fewer freedoms, rapidly declining quality of life, and increasing levels of war/conflict.
- menschmanfred 3y agoAnd have you ever spend time on thinking about your conclusion?
- cpursley 3y agoSome of believe the cycle is pretty incredible, beautiful and net positive despite its flaws.
- menschmanfred 3y agoYes and I like the point in general. But we know in which world we bring humans in. Climate change, rassism, bulling etc.
- neoberg 3y agoNot having kids is selfish. Most of the worlds social systems depend on new generations of workers. I'm not only talking about paying taxes and contributions etc. But if not enough people have kids, there won't be enough doctors, engineers or cleaners when the same people get older.
- menschmanfred 3y agoThat's not a good reason for the new human it's only a good and easy reason for the existing humans. To create their future workers/slaves.
- psacawa 3y agoThis is a remarkable inversion. The primary reason people forego children in the west is because it throws a wrench in their comfortable lifestyle. They prefer to live unto themselves, instead of unto children, i.e. selfishly. I believe the environmental/climactic concerns raised by antinatalists are just a feeble deflection. They are primarily interested in personal comfort.
- bemusedthrow75 3y agoI don't really want to have kids. I am not an "antinatalist" because of this. It has nothing whatsoever to do with comfort (or the environment or climate). I note that the "unto" here is a very interesting word choice that hints at an underlying belief structure that drives your opinion.
- menschmanfred 3y agoYou could have asked my why I think it is selfish. I believe creating new life is playing 'god'. It's easier to never exist than life life. This has nothing to do what you thought
- mcphage 3y ago> I believe creating new life is playing 'god'. That's an unusual definition of "playing god", since it includes something that pretty much every life form back to the earliest single-cellular bacteria does.
- menschmanfred 3y agoThose are not self aware and can't think about the implications
- mcphage 3y ago> Those are not self aware I'm not sure I do this most of the time. > can't think about the implications I definitely don't do this bit.