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I just don't understand a full 100% RTO. Hybrid works so well. You get best of both worlds, so to speak. If you NEED to have facetime with your co-workers fiv

I just don't understand a full 100% RTO. Hybrid works so well. You get best of both worlds, so to speak. If you NEED to have facetime with your co-workers five days a week, I can only assume that your main task is to manage/oversee them.

p1esk 3y ago
Hybrid works so well. No. I live far away from the office. Hybrid, just like a full RTO, means I have to move. I don't want to do that.
serial_dev 3y ago
That's not been my experience with hybrid work at all. The days in the office were always unproductive, as you work on a new desk, need to set up your work station (which gets even worse with hot desk approach). You also couldn't really count on having all the meetings in person, as someone always had to stay at home for some (probably quite often, bs) reason, so now you have 5 people in office that need to Zoom because 2 stayed at home. After a couple of you realized you won't get much done in the office, you use the time in the office to chat about things, most often not about work. When it's about work, it's in a negative light about silly decisions the company / team has been making, things that annoy you to no end, you can "casually" discuss alternative companies that hire your kind of talent. In person, it's much easier to talk about these things casually. With hybrid work, you also can't hire people that aren't reasonably close to the main office.
lewdev 3y ago
As a software engineer, I'm doing 1-day a week in office. I feels like a decent balance. Any more than a day seems ridiculous because I would have no reason to be there. I could be in the office by myself at times because the others are in meetings and I just need to code. It does help to have face-to-face conversations with co-workers because simply the easiest way to share ideas and thoughts. The 1-day a week feels a little more than enough to do this, but I can deal with it. And because of the environment I don't feel very productive coding, but I suppose it was productive to have face-to-face conversations, which helps us stay connected with each other.
- tfandango 3y ago
  Same here. I like the 1 day in the office to meet face to face with people I work with. But I do feel like that becomes the point of the trip, which is ok, but I get very little programming done on those days. As hard as it was for me to transition to WFH, now it's hard to imagine going back to 5 days.

p1esk 3y ago

Hybrid works so well. No. I live far away from the office. Hybrid, just like a full RTO, means I have to move. I don't want to do that.

serial_dev 3y ago

That's not been my experience with hybrid work at all. The days in the office were always unproductive, as you work on a new desk, need to set up your work station (which gets even worse with hot desk approach). You also couldn't really count on having all the meetings in person, as someone always had to stay at home for some (probably quite often, bs) reason, so now you have 5 people in office that need to Zoom because 2 stayed at home. After a couple of you realized you won't get much done in the office, you use the time in the office to chat about things, most often not about work. When it's about work, it's in a negative light about silly decisions the company / team has been making, things that annoy you to no end, you can "casually" discuss alternative companies that hire your kind of talent. In person, it's much easier to talk about these things casually. With hybrid work, you also can't hire people that aren't reasonably close to the main office.

lewdev 3y ago

As a software engineer, I'm doing 1-day a week in office. I feels like a decent balance. Any more than a day seems ridiculous because I would have no reason to be there. I could be in the office by myself at times because the others are in meetings and I just need to code. It does help to have face-to-face conversations with co-workers because simply the easiest way to share ideas and thoughts. The 1-day a week feels a little more than enough to do this, but I can deal with it. And because of the environment I don't feel very productive coding, but I suppose it was productive to have face-to-face conversations, which helps us stay connected with each other.

tfandango 3y ago
Same here. I like the 1 day in the office to meet face to face with people I work with. But I do feel like that becomes the point of the trip, which is ok, but I get very little programming done on those days. As hard as it was for me to transition to WFH, now it's hard to imagine going back to 5 days.