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No, I am vegan. It is not just about food, but also believes and social group. But nobody has a right to harass me, just because they seen me eating meet outsi

No, I am vegan. It is not just about food, but also believes and social group. But nobody has a right to harass me, just because they seen me eating meet outside of my social circle!

tdullien 3y ago
The flak you are getting on this thread reminds me of Scott Pilgrim and the vegan police. https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police
mandmandam 3y ago
Words have meaning. You can make up your own definition, but don't expect people to go along with it. If someone tells me they're a vegan, but they eat meat every single week, I would have to put less stock in everything they later tell me, including complaints about being 'harassed'.
- Throw73747 3y ago
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  - mandmandam 3y ago
    > I am vegan because not being a vegan is a murder, and I would be a murderer and pariah. I am tired of being yelled at. So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people who you fundamentally disagree with. And this is okay because transgender people exist? Or because the version of abortion Catholics adopted in 1869 is being challenged? Sorry bud, none of this makes sense. I suspect you've fallen in with a bad crowd, if any of this sounds reasonable to you.
    - Throw73747 3y ago
      > Words have meaning I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. > Catholics adopted in 1869 No, current position of the church is pretty clear. If I would go around harrasing some girl, telling her parents she had secret abortion... Pretty much the same situation I have with vegans! > So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! > who you fundamentally disagree with I do not disagree with anyone. We are never going to have this sort of discussion.
      - mandmandam 3y ago
        > I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. No, you didn't. If someone were to call themselves Catholic, but visit a synagogue every Saturday, would you expect them to get huffy when their church mates question their affiliation? Be real. > No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. There's a word for that diet, and it's not 'vegan'. You know this, because you said yourself that you hide this from your vegan friends. > Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! Vegan doesn't mean 'can't own pets'. If you have friends who call themselves vegan but raise cows for beef, then guess what - they're not vegans either. > I do not disagree with anyone. Lol. You disagree with the entire world about what the word vegan means, and are trying to justify it with transphobic slurs. I'm not the Vegan Police, and you're not a vegan. Your argument that people call themselves anything these days, so you can too, is fundamentally spurious.
        Throw73747 3y ago
        > Catholic, but visit a synagogue every Saturday Many people do that. You can be Jewish (by origin) but also Catholic (by faith). Nobody is going to throw you out, for not being religious enough! Not many people go to church nowadays, they are happy for every paying visitor. I am an agnostic though, I do not care. > and it's not 'vegan Not everyone is going to live up to, your strict "1869" version of veganism. I am 85% vegan, and I like rounding up. > Vegan doesn't mean 'can't own pets Person can select an animal by laundry list of criteria (sex, breed, color, size, temperament, age...). Put into cage regularly whenever convenient. Keep it alone in tiny apartment for 12 hours. Even castrate it to make their life easier... And somehow it is equatiable relationship, with no exploitation!
        mandmandam 3y ago
        "My" "strict" "1869" definition? Find me the definition of veganism that lets you eat meat every week. I'll wait. I can respect your commitment to the bit, I guess. It's getting old though. Here's your diet, in words the rest of the world uses (as has already been pointed out to you): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flexitarian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flexitarian Call it what you like, I guess, and keep getting upset when people correct you if you insist. Seems like an awful strange hill to commit to, but you do you. Maybe lay off the transphobic shit though.
  - mwymwt 3y ago
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No, I am vegan. It is not just about food, but also believes and social group. But nobody has a right to harass me, just because they seen me eating meet outside of my social circle!

tdullien 3y ago

The flak you are getting on this thread reminds me of Scott Pilgrim and the vegan police. https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police

mandmandam 3y ago

Words have meaning. You can make up your own definition, but don't expect people to go along with it. If someone tells me they're a vegan, but they eat meat every single week, I would have to put less stock in everything they later tell me, including complaints about being 'harassed'.

Throw73747 3y ago
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- mandmandam 3y ago
  > I am vegan because not being a vegan is a murder, and I would be a murderer and pariah. I am tired of being yelled at. So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people who you fundamentally disagree with. And this is okay because transgender people exist? Or because the version of abortion Catholics adopted in 1869 is being challenged? Sorry bud, none of this makes sense. I suspect you've fallen in with a bad crowd, if any of this sounds reasonable to you.
  - Throw73747 3y ago
    > Words have meaning I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. > Catholics adopted in 1869 No, current position of the church is pretty clear. If I would go around harrasing some girl, telling her parents she had secret abortion... Pretty much the same situation I have with vegans! > So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! > who you fundamentally disagree with I do not disagree with anyone. We are never going to have this sort of discussion.
    - mandmandam 3y ago
      > I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. No, you didn't. If someone were to call themselves Catholic, but visit a synagogue every Saturday, would you expect them to get huffy when their church mates question their affiliation? Be real. > No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. There's a word for that diet, and it's not 'vegan'. You know this, because you said yourself that you hide this from your vegan friends. > Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! Vegan doesn't mean 'can't own pets'. If you have friends who call themselves vegan but raise cows for beef, then guess what - they're not vegans either. > I do not disagree with anyone. Lol. You disagree with the entire world about what the word vegan means, and are trying to justify it with transphobic slurs. I'm not the Vegan Police, and you're not a vegan. Your argument that people call themselves anything these days, so you can too, is fundamentally spurious.
      - Throw73747 3y ago
        > Catholic, but visit a synagogue every Saturday Many people do that. You can be Jewish (by origin) but also Catholic (by faith). Nobody is going to throw you out, for not being religious enough! Not many people go to church nowadays, they are happy for every paying visitor. I am an agnostic though, I do not care. > and it's not 'vegan Not everyone is going to live up to, your strict "1869" version of veganism. I am 85% vegan, and I like rounding up. > Vegan doesn't mean 'can't own pets Person can select an animal by laundry list of criteria (sex, breed, color, size, temperament, age...). Put into cage regularly whenever convenient. Keep it alone in tiny apartment for 12 hours. Even castrate it to make their life easier... And somehow it is equatiable relationship, with no exploitation!
        mandmandam 3y ago
        "My" "strict" "1869" definition? Find me the definition of veganism that lets you eat meat every week. I'll wait. I can respect your commitment to the bit, I guess. It's getting old though. Here's your diet, in words the rest of the world uses (as has already been pointed out to you): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flexitarian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flexitarian Call it what you like, I guess, and keep getting upset when people correct you if you insist. Seems like an awful strange hill to commit to, but you do you. Maybe lay off the transphobic shit though.
- mwymwt 3y ago
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