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> Is it normal to forget the steps you took to accomplish a task? Yes, it’s very common. Immediately after doing it, in fact.

LoganDark 3y ago
> Yes, it’s very common. Immediately after doing it, in fact. Do you not even make mental notes of permanent changes you've made to the system...? I mean, I don't think you'd, say, turn off some crash protection and then later complain about crashes. You'd remember that you previously turned it off, wouldn't you? I'm so confused, heh.
- rrr_oh_man 3y ago
  > I'm biased because I'm neurodivergent, which means I don't have as much experience with neurotypical thought processes. > I'm so confused, heh I’m biased right now because you assume stuff about me that you maybe shouldn’t. Everyone’s experiences and thought processes might be starkly different from each other. (No matter which observational group you put people into.)
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    > I’m biased right now because you assume stuff about me that you maybe shouldn’t. I only talked about "typical thought processes" because you said "we all" which I assume meant the general population. Didn't assume anything about you. Even though the base problem was given to me by another, everything I wrote about "what makes a resourceful idiot / how they are a problem" is based on my personal perception of the ones that I've seen. Which is most likely going to be a neurodivergent's impression of certain neurotypicals. AKA biased. And the "I don't think" was leading a question, not making an assumption about you. > Everyone’s experiences and thought processes might be starkly different from each other. ...which is I'm so hesitant to believe that everyone is a resourceful idiot. And why I made a disclaimer about the fact that my own thought processes might be starkly different from not just who I'm describing, but other brains in general.
    - Malcolmlisk 3y ago
      At this point I don't really know if you understand what 'neurodivergent' means. People who suffer for neurodivergency does not have different mental mappings than those who are neurotypical. Also, the way they construct their own world does not differ from neurotypical. The mind process you have described is pretty standard, even using some different things to recover information instead of saving it. There is no neurodivergent path of extracting information and there is no neurodivergent understanding of reality or neurodivergent thought process.
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      - medstrom 3y ago
        This comment is puzzling to me on several levels, but I'll just go to the centre of the topic. Do you feel that something needs to be addressed about the way LoganDark disclaimed that they were biased on account of their neurodivergency?
        rrr_oh_man 3y ago
        How did you jump from > At this point I don't really know if you understand what 'neurodivergent' means. People who suffer for neurodivergency does not have different mental mappings than those who are neurotypical. Also, the way they construct their own world does not differ from neurotypical to > Do you feel that something needs to be addressed about the way LoganDark disclaimed that they were biased on account of their neurodivergency ?
        LoganDark 3y ago
        maybe they think the disclaimer was unnecessary or misguided if there's no actual difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent there?
        medstrom 3y ago
- ScoobleDoodle 3y ago
  No, some set of people will forget. Even if they intended or desired to remember. Mental notes fade for some set of people. And at different time lengths.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    hmm, I suppose that's true. I have a lot of friends who also have dissociative disorders, and some of them just dissociate all the time and forget everything, regardless of whether they would've forgotten normally

LoganDark 3y ago

> Yes, it’s very common. Immediately after doing it, in fact. Do you not even make mental notes of permanent changes you've made to the system...? I mean, I don't think you'd, say, turn off some crash protection and then later complain about crashes. You'd remember that you previously turned it off, wouldn't you? I'm so confused, heh.

rrr_oh_man 3y ago
> I'm biased because I'm neurodivergent, which means I don't have as much experience with neurotypical thought processes. > I'm so confused, heh I’m biased right now because you assume stuff about me that you maybe shouldn’t. Everyone’s experiences and thought processes might be starkly different from each other. (No matter which observational group you put people into.)
- LoganDark 3y ago
  > I’m biased right now because you assume stuff about me that you maybe shouldn’t. I only talked about "typical thought processes" because you said "we all" which I assume meant the general population. Didn't assume anything about you. Even though the base problem was given to me by another, everything I wrote about "what makes a resourceful idiot / how they are a problem" is based on my personal perception of the ones that I've seen. Which is most likely going to be a neurodivergent's impression of certain neurotypicals. AKA biased. And the "I don't think" was leading a question, not making an assumption about you. > Everyone’s experiences and thought processes might be starkly different from each other. ...which is I'm so hesitant to believe that everyone is a resourceful idiot. And why I made a disclaimer about the fact that my own thought processes might be starkly different from not just who I'm describing, but other brains in general.
  - Malcolmlisk 3y ago
    At this point I don't really know if you understand what 'neurodivergent' means. People who suffer for neurodivergency does not have different mental mappings than those who are neurotypical. Also, the way they construct their own world does not differ from neurotypical. The mind process you have described is pretty standard, even using some different things to recover information instead of saving it. There is no neurodivergent path of extracting information and there is no neurodivergent understanding of reality or neurodivergent thought process.
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    - medstrom 3y ago
      This comment is puzzling to me on several levels, but I'll just go to the centre of the topic. Do you feel that something needs to be addressed about the way LoganDark disclaimed that they were biased on account of their neurodivergency?
      - rrr_oh_man 3y ago
        How did you jump from > At this point I don't really know if you understand what 'neurodivergent' means. People who suffer for neurodivergency does not have different mental mappings than those who are neurotypical. Also, the way they construct their own world does not differ from neurotypical to > Do you feel that something needs to be addressed about the way LoganDark disclaimed that they were biased on account of their neurodivergency ?
        LoganDark 3y ago
        maybe they think the disclaimer was unnecessary or misguided if there's no actual difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent there?
        medstrom 3y ago
ScoobleDoodle 3y ago
No, some set of people will forget. Even if they intended or desired to remember. Mental notes fade for some set of people. And at different time lengths.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  hmm, I suppose that's true. I have a lot of friends who also have dissociative disorders, and some of them just dissociate all the time and forget everything, regardless of whether they would've forgotten normally