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If, as a paying customer, I get an extremely low bitrate stream on Netflix because I'm watching it from Linux, then piracy is 200% justified.

charcircuit 3y ago
It should work on Linux if you have have a properly set up protected media path.
- waffleiron 3y ago
  Not according to Netflix themselves https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081
  - charcircuit 3y ago
    Reread it. It says it's possible to stream HD content on Linux instead of only SD. Chromebooks with ChromeOS and certain devices with Android use Linux too, but have worked to get L1 widevine drm working so they have higher resolution available.
    - vlz 3y ago
      Yeah, HD, but not "Full HD". The page has "HD (720p)" as max for all linux browsers. For each of the other OSes you have at least one browser with 1080p (Chrome at least). Why this restriction?
      - charcircuit 3y ago
        >Why this restriction? It depends on how secure your device is able to keep the decoded contents. The better the security the higher the quality they are willing to allow.
        midasuni 3y ago
        But if I wanted to do something other than watch the film why wouldn’t I just download it from a “pirate” site? What is the benefit to the rights holder in having a “secure device”
        charcircuit 3y ago
        >What is the benefit to the rights holder in having a “secure device” The goal is to make it expensive for it to even make it to a pirate site. We will get to the point where it will require a new hardware exploit to be found for each show that gets cracked. As the industry gets better at security the price per exploit will go up to eventually not be economical to continue doing.
        midasuni 3y ago
        Given it just needs to be done once, and a hdcp stripping device is easy to get, how does that work?
        dns_snek 3y ago
        It doesn't, it's a coping mechanism for companies to be able to say they're "doing something". If DRM worked, I wouldn't be able to watch it on my bootleg setup in an hour or less after it officially releases on streaming platforms.
        charcircuit 3y ago
        >Given it just needs to be done once Since it is still the early days I think they are hesitant to ban every insecure device once one is discovered. This greatly decreased the cost for attackers. >and a hdcp stripping device Those only work with older versions of HDCP. Over time newer versions of HDCP will keep making the security better making it eventually impossible for an external splitter to work. No such splitter exists for HDCP 2.3 which came out 6 years ago.
        3y ago

charcircuit 3y ago

It should work on Linux if you have have a properly set up protected media path.

waffleiron 3y ago
Not according to Netflix themselves https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081
- charcircuit 3y ago
  Reread it. It says it's possible to stream HD content on Linux instead of only SD. Chromebooks with ChromeOS and certain devices with Android use Linux too, but have worked to get L1 widevine drm working so they have higher resolution available.
  - vlz 3y ago
    Yeah, HD, but not "Full HD". The page has "HD (720p)" as max for all linux browsers. For each of the other OSes you have at least one browser with 1080p (Chrome at least). Why this restriction?
    - charcircuit 3y ago
      >Why this restriction? It depends on how secure your device is able to keep the decoded contents. The better the security the higher the quality they are willing to allow.
      - midasuni 3y ago
        But if I wanted to do something other than watch the film why wouldn’t I just download it from a “pirate” site? What is the benefit to the rights holder in having a “secure device”
        charcircuit 3y ago
        >What is the benefit to the rights holder in having a “secure device” The goal is to make it expensive for it to even make it to a pirate site. We will get to the point where it will require a new hardware exploit to be found for each show that gets cracked. As the industry gets better at security the price per exploit will go up to eventually not be economical to continue doing.
        midasuni 3y ago
        Given it just needs to be done once, and a hdcp stripping device is easy to get, how does that work?
        dns_snek 3y ago
        It doesn't, it's a coping mechanism for companies to be able to say they're "doing something". If DRM worked, I wouldn't be able to watch it on my bootleg setup in an hour or less after it officially releases on streaming platforms.
        charcircuit 3y ago
        >Given it just needs to be done once Since it is still the early days I think they are hesitant to ban every insecure device once one is discovered. This greatly decreased the cost for attackers. >and a hdcp stripping device Those only work with older versions of HDCP. Over time newer versions of HDCP will keep making the security better making it eventually impossible for an external splitter to work. No such splitter exists for HDCP 2.3 which came out 6 years ago.
        3y ago