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Because I am a vegan. Maybe bad one, but still a vegan! There are Muslims who drink alcohol, Christians who visited church years ago... I don't always have a

Because I am a vegan. Maybe bad one, but still a vegan! There are Muslims who drink alcohol, Christians who visited church years ago... I don't always have a choice about what I eat.

colanderman 3y ago
> I don't always have a choice about what I eat. Thanks for your answer, yes, this is the case for many people I know.
astura 3y ago
Flexitarian is a more accurate description of your diet.
- eduction 3y ago
  What’s your minimum timeframe? If someone is vegan for a year then eats meat the next, do we retroactively revoke their year 1 veganism? If I am vegan for January and then in February eat meat, am I retroactively not a vegan for January? It sounds like this person is a vegan at least six days a week. I don’t see how Saturday erases Friday any more than 2023 would erase 2022. And I don’t begrudge them becoming vegan again on Sunday. Who would that benefit? Being vegan 6 days a week is way more vegan than most people.
  - johngossman 3y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzGAXHD3IM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzGAXHD3IM
  - 9991 3y ago
    I’m almost always a vegetarian. My meat eating is down to under 45 minutes a day.
  - asoneth 3y ago
    > If I am vegan for January and then in February eat meat, am I retroactively not a vegan for January? Like many labels I think it comes down to intent more than timeframe. If you go vegan and then a day/month/year/decade later you change your mind and decide it's not working then you were vegan during that time and are no longer vegan. But if you take a hiatus from consuming animal products with intent to go back to eating meat in a few hours/weeks/months then I wouldn't say you were a vegan during that time. If I happen to go a few days between consuming animal products that doesn't make me a vegan during those days.
- Throw73747 3y ago
  No, I am vegan. It is not just about food, but also believes and social group. But nobody has a right to harass me, just because they seen me eating meet outside of my social circle!
  - tdullien 3y ago
    The flak you are getting on this thread reminds me of Scott Pilgrim and the vegan police. https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    Words have meaning. You can make up your own definition, but don't expect people to go along with it. If someone tells me they're a vegan, but they eat meat every single week, I would have to put less stock in everything they later tell me, including complaints about being 'harassed'.
    - Throw73747 3y ago
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      - mandmandam 3y ago
        > I am vegan because not being a vegan is a murder, and I would be a murderer and pariah. I am tired of being yelled at. So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people who you fundamentally disagree with. And this is okay because transgender people exist? Or because the version of abortion Catholics adopted in 1869 is being challenged? Sorry bud, none of this makes sense. I suspect you've fallen in with a bad crowd, if any of this sounds reasonable to you.
        Throw73747 3y ago
        > Words have meaning I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. > Catholics adopted in 1869 No, current position of the church is pretty clear. If I would go around harrasing some girl, telling her parents she had secret abortion... Pretty much the same situation I have with vegans! > So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! > who you fundamentally disagree with I do not disagree with anyone. We are never going to have this sort of discussion.

Because I am a vegan. Maybe bad one, but still a vegan! There are Muslims who drink alcohol, Christians who visited church years ago... I don't always have a choice about what I eat.

colanderman 3y ago

> I don't always have a choice about what I eat. Thanks for your answer, yes, this is the case for many people I know.

astura 3y ago

Flexitarian is a more accurate description of your diet.

eduction 3y ago
What’s your minimum timeframe? If someone is vegan for a year then eats meat the next, do we retroactively revoke their year 1 veganism? If I am vegan for January and then in February eat meat, am I retroactively not a vegan for January? It sounds like this person is a vegan at least six days a week. I don’t see how Saturday erases Friday any more than 2023 would erase 2022. And I don’t begrudge them becoming vegan again on Sunday. Who would that benefit? Being vegan 6 days a week is way more vegan than most people.
- johngossman 3y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzGAXHD3IM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzGAXHD3IM
- 9991 3y ago
  I’m almost always a vegetarian. My meat eating is down to under 45 minutes a day.
- asoneth 3y ago
  > If I am vegan for January and then in February eat meat, am I retroactively not a vegan for January? Like many labels I think it comes down to intent more than timeframe. If you go vegan and then a day/month/year/decade later you change your mind and decide it's not working then you were vegan during that time and are no longer vegan. But if you take a hiatus from consuming animal products with intent to go back to eating meat in a few hours/weeks/months then I wouldn't say you were a vegan during that time. If I happen to go a few days between consuming animal products that doesn't make me a vegan during those days.
Throw73747 3y ago
No, I am vegan. It is not just about food, but also believes and social group. But nobody has a right to harass me, just because they seen me eating meet outside of my social circle!
- tdullien 3y ago
  The flak you are getting on this thread reminds me of Scott Pilgrim and the vegan police. https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police
- mandmandam 3y ago
  Words have meaning. You can make up your own definition, but don't expect people to go along with it. If someone tells me they're a vegan, but they eat meat every single week, I would have to put less stock in everything they later tell me, including complaints about being 'harassed'.
  - Throw73747 3y ago
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    - mandmandam 3y ago
      > I am vegan because not being a vegan is a murder, and I would be a murderer and pariah. I am tired of being yelled at. So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people who you fundamentally disagree with. And this is okay because transgender people exist? Or because the version of abortion Catholics adopted in 1869 is being challenged? Sorry bud, none of this makes sense. I suspect you've fallen in with a bad crowd, if any of this sounds reasonable to you.
      - Throw73747 3y ago
        > Words have meaning I gave you some examples where "meaning" shifted so much, it no longer means anything. > Catholics adopted in 1869 No, current position of the church is pretty clear. If I would go around harrasing some girl, telling her parents she had secret abortion... Pretty much the same situation I have with vegans! > So, you lie about your own identity because you want to fit in with people No, I do not lie. I am vegan, just not very strict one. Some people from my group own (and exploit) animals. This is the same situation! > who you fundamentally disagree with I do not disagree with anyone. We are never going to have this sort of discussion.