And to this I want to quote the first comment of this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17461506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17461506 "Why I

And to this I want to quote the first comment of this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17461506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17461506 "Why I Don't Love Gödel, Escher, Bach" > stuntkite on July 5, 2018 | flag| favorite | next [–] > I'd owned this book for many years and had a similar experience to OP. But one day someone gave me I am a Strange Loop, which I started reading and enjoyed way more. After getting in a little bit Hofstadter makes some apologies for GEB saying it was the sum of work of a very young person. I think he was 24? I think it's pretty incredible considering his age. The things that lead him to thinking critically about consciousness because of his disabled sister I found to be something that changed not only how I interacted with people that were differently abled, but also changed how I saw my own disabilities. Sure it's more than a bit full of itself, but I can't for the life of me think how I would edit it any differently. It's honest from the place he was standing. With a lot of thought, a desire to share, and a perspective that no one else could just stumble on. IMO, it really does kind of have to be what it is. > So, I decided to put down IAASL and try to really get through GEB first.. like for real this time... and found an Open Courseware[0] on the book to follow hoping that would help me really cut through it. It did! The trick that did it for me was the prof's suggestion that you just skip the first 300 or so pages and he picked up from there. > I'd thumbed through it and much like op had "looked" at every page, but once I skipped the first 300 and followed along with the course, it was like butter. There is something funny about all the intro dialogs that can fatigue by the time you get to the meat. > That said, I really enjoyed his reflection on GEB in IAASL and enjoyed the read of IAASL a lot more. Regardless of what you think about what Hofstadter proposes, I think his contribution to critical exploration of the consciousness is artful and invaluable. I think it's fun, compassionate, and beautiful, and it really changed how I see myself and my environment. > It sticks with me and I think about it a lot and it makes me happy to share it with people. > [0] https://ocw.mit.edu/high-school/humanities-and-social-sciences/godel-escher-bach/ https://ocw.mit.edu/high-school/humanities-and-social-scienc...