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Autism will end up being torn into independent diagnosis of correlated traits. There's no underlying nexus between the list of symptoms beyond statistical corre

Autism will end up being torn into independent diagnosis of correlated traits. There's no underlying nexus between the list of symptoms beyond statistical correlation. High IQ? ADHD? Bipolar? Eye sensitivity? Loneliness? It seems little is in common beyond correlations.

StopTheTechies 3y ago
> There's no underlying nexus between the list of symptoms beyond statistical correlation Correlation is correlated with meaning, so what are you saying
- astrange 3y ago
  Correlation is not causation.
  - StopTheTechies 3y ago
    Ok—you seemed to have missed the main point. If people react to xyz, it doesn't matter if xyz is actually occurring. In fact the only thing that matters is peoples' reactions.
coldtea 3y ago
This description is not even wrong. It's random misunderstandings combined. There's a list of autism symptoms used diagnostically. The list above is nowhere even close. Neither High IQ is used as a diagnostic of autism (and you can have autism and low IQ), nor ADHD (hell, until recently it was the opposite: doctors used to believe you can't have both ADHD and autism), nor bipolar disorder (at best a comorbidity). I'll give you "eye sensitivity" (sensory sensitivity), which is one of the diagnostic symptoms. As for loneliness, that is a second order effect under certain social circumstances, not a psysiological result of autism. Might as well consider bullying a symptom.
- ch_123 3y ago
  > and you can have autism and low IQ In fact, various studies have shown that most people with ASD have a below average IQ.
sureglymop 3y ago
Often there is a diagnosis of autism and of the comorbidities you mentioned. And there is not always only a correlation and not a causation. People with autism, adhd etc. have a higher risk for depression and social anxiety, often induced by the experience of living with these conditions.
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StopTheTechies 3y ago

> There's no underlying nexus between the list of symptoms beyond statistical correlation Correlation is correlated with meaning, so what are you saying

astrange 3y ago
Correlation is not causation.
- StopTheTechies 3y ago
  Ok—you seemed to have missed the main point. If people react to xyz, it doesn't matter if xyz is actually occurring. In fact the only thing that matters is peoples' reactions.

coldtea 3y ago

This description is not even wrong. It's random misunderstandings combined. There's a list of autism symptoms used diagnostically. The list above is nowhere even close. Neither High IQ is used as a diagnostic of autism (and you can have autism and low IQ), nor ADHD (hell, until recently it was the opposite: doctors used to believe you can't have both ADHD and autism), nor bipolar disorder (at best a comorbidity). I'll give you "eye sensitivity" (sensory sensitivity), which is one of the diagnostic symptoms. As for loneliness, that is a second order effect under certain social circumstances, not a psysiological result of autism. Might as well consider bullying a symptom.

ch_123 3y ago
> and you can have autism and low IQ In fact, various studies have shown that most people with ASD have a below average IQ.

sureglymop 3y ago

Often there is a diagnosis of autism and of the comorbidities you mentioned. And there is not always only a correlation and not a causation. People with autism, adhd etc. have a higher risk for depression and social anxiety, often induced by the experience of living with these conditions.

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