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the replacement bags are usually made out of another type of plastic that needs to be reused 100+ times minimum to make the trade off worthwhile, which is rarel
by treme 3y ago
the replacement bags are usually made out of another type of plastic that needs to be reused 100+ times minimum to make the trade off worthwhile, which is rarely the case.
This is what superficial activism looks like.
- jasonkester 3y agoSuperficial is good in this case. One of the worst things about plastic bags is that they end up wrapped around every roadside bush in Africa, Southeast Asia and South America. I’ve never seen one of those beefy reusable carrier bags blowing around on the side of a road.
- treme 3y agoInstead they will wreck havoc on marine life because they decompose into loops of stringy rope that's difficult to break
- kibwen 3y agoWhy does this comment feel like someone trying to vice-signal about their lack of care for the environment while attempting to manipulate the people who do by making up complete nonsense? No, reusable shopping bags are not worse for the environment than disposable ones.
- treme 3y agohttps://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/13/world/reusable-grocery-bags-cotton-plastic-scn/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/13/world/reusable-grocery-ba... "a cotton bag should be used at least 7,100 times to make it a truly environmentally friendly alternative to a conventional plastic bag."
- alphaddx 3y agoWell it wasn't "vice-signalling" as they posted a source and had a legitimate criticism yet you assumed bad faith and attacked them based on that.
- postepowanieadm 3y agoHow American plastic bags ban affects Africa, Southeast Asia and South America?
- dymk 3y agoWe ship our plastic to those countries
- HPsquared 3y agoExactly. It's like the straws. Something highly visible and conspicuous, with very small impact. The definition of tokenism.
- slimrec77 3y agoIt is literally a type of religious ritual to the Earth gods. The point is not that it helps or doesn't help, the point is "we have to do something!" Just like it is obvious from a breakdown of the data that is beyond stupid to send one giant diesel burning truck to pick up "garbage" then another giant diesel truck to pick up tin cans and cardboard at a net energy loss. Of course, it is impossible to stop this even if it would be rational thing to do. "we have to do something!"
- kibwen 3y agoThis is a preposterous talking point, I wish people would stop parroting it. Reusable bags carry as much weight and volume as multiple disposable bags. And yes, you can use them hundreds of times. I have used mine every week for years and years. Disposable plastic grocery bags are wasteful and pointless, and those defending them so virulently come across as bafflingly pathetic.
- mjevans 3y agoI'd prefer a _ban_ on plastic bags rather than the 10 cent ding for a dime routine. Require the stores to offer a free paper bag, and allow them to offer an upsell to a handled paper bag.