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I would argue with that slightly. Only because I'm awaiting a GPT powered watch similar to a sci-fi terminal any day now. No screen, just microphone and some re

I would argue with that slightly. Only because I'm awaiting a GPT powered watch similar to a sci-fi terminal any day now. No screen, just microphone and some response mechanism.

dangus 3y ago
That concept is just an app or an OS feature on an Apple Watch or a smartphone (with or without wireless headphone/mic). It’s Siri whenever Siri gets hooked up to a LLM, which will probably happen within the next year or two. I’m not sure why this idea would take the form of a watch. The reason why watches still have faces is: 1. To be fashionable 2. To see the time and other information quickly without speaking Otherwise, there is no reason to buy one. The “smart” in the smartwatch is frosting on top of the cake. The “cake” is the watch’s main function as jewelry that tells time.
- kalleboo 3y ago
  People all stopped wearing watches when they got phones because they didn't need the time on their wrist constantly. Now they want notifications on their wrist constantly, that's what the cake of the smartwatch is, not the time. And the Apple Watch is ugly as hell, it's no jewelry.
  - dangus 3y ago
    People stopped wearing watches? Then how is industry revenue growing? https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/watch-market https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/watch-ma... https://www.statista.com/outlook/cmo/accessories/watches-jewelry/watches/worldwide https://www.statista.com/outlook/cmo/accessories/watches-jew... Of course it’s jewelry. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be a gazillion different band and finish colors. Apple switches watch bands out seasonally and changes the available metal finishes of the device with every iteration. It might not be jewelry you like, but it’s jewelry.
    - kalleboo 3y ago
      There are two watch markets - utilitarian, and jewelry. The utilitarian market was all people wearing cheap Casios and Seikos just to see the time. These people stopped wearing watches when they started carrying mobile phones (not even smartphones, this happened in the 00's). The Apple Watch brought these people back for utility - either seeing notifications on their wrist, or health/sports tracking. People still don't really need to see the time on their wrist, phones even have always-on OLED screens now. Now that you've decided to wear an Apple Watch, of course you're going to choose a band that looks nice, sure that part is jewelry, but not any more than a smartphone case. But nobody goes "oh wow that Apple Watch band is gorgeous, I'm going to buy and start wearing an Apple Watch for it" I don't think there is much to glean from the industry revenue because there's so much noise going on (the massive growth of the Chinese luxury market from zero)
      - dangus 3y ago
        It’s still jewelry. Like I said, it’s not just the bands, Apple changes the device finishes every time they release a new product. And yes, I would argue that a smartphone case is jewelry. I would argue that the phones themselves are also jewelry! The fact that Apple brought back people who had stopped wearing watches just shows that there was demand for that sort of thing, and it was being unmet by traditional watches. People still want to see the time quickly but they now demand more than that. Yes, we segment out the luxury watch and commodity watch markets. Both of those markets are growing as a whole.
papichulo4 3y ago
I thought this was the future, too, but I think there has to be a shared display that you can relay/validate the output together (with the GPT) on. It has to be able to draw a thing, quickly, show you what it's thinking -- voice is too slow to be the single medium of interaction.
RobotToaster 3y ago
I wonder why google are taking so long to integrate bard with assistant? Seems like a no brainer move.

I would argue with that slightly. Only because I'm awaiting a GPT powered watch similar to a sci-fi terminal any day now. No screen, just microphone and some response mechanism.

dangus 3y ago

That concept is just an app or an OS feature on an Apple Watch or a smartphone (with or without wireless headphone/mic). It’s Siri whenever Siri gets hooked up to a LLM, which will probably happen within the next year or two. I’m not sure why this idea would take the form of a watch. The reason why watches still have faces is: 1. To be fashionable 2. To see the time and other information quickly without speaking Otherwise, there is no reason to buy one. The “smart” in the smartwatch is frosting on top of the cake. The “cake” is the watch’s main function as jewelry that tells time.

kalleboo 3y ago
People all stopped wearing watches when they got phones because they didn't need the time on their wrist constantly. Now they want notifications on their wrist constantly, that's what the cake of the smartwatch is, not the time. And the Apple Watch is ugly as hell, it's no jewelry.
- dangus 3y ago
  People stopped wearing watches? Then how is industry revenue growing? https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/watch-market https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/watch-ma... https://www.statista.com/outlook/cmo/accessories/watches-jewelry/watches/worldwide https://www.statista.com/outlook/cmo/accessories/watches-jew... Of course it’s jewelry. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be a gazillion different band and finish colors. Apple switches watch bands out seasonally and changes the available metal finishes of the device with every iteration. It might not be jewelry you like, but it’s jewelry.
  - kalleboo 3y ago
    There are two watch markets - utilitarian, and jewelry. The utilitarian market was all people wearing cheap Casios and Seikos just to see the time. These people stopped wearing watches when they started carrying mobile phones (not even smartphones, this happened in the 00's). The Apple Watch brought these people back for utility - either seeing notifications on their wrist, or health/sports tracking. People still don't really need to see the time on their wrist, phones even have always-on OLED screens now. Now that you've decided to wear an Apple Watch, of course you're going to choose a band that looks nice, sure that part is jewelry, but not any more than a smartphone case. But nobody goes "oh wow that Apple Watch band is gorgeous, I'm going to buy and start wearing an Apple Watch for it" I don't think there is much to glean from the industry revenue because there's so much noise going on (the massive growth of the Chinese luxury market from zero)
    - dangus 3y ago
      It’s still jewelry. Like I said, it’s not just the bands, Apple changes the device finishes every time they release a new product. And yes, I would argue that a smartphone case is jewelry. I would argue that the phones themselves are also jewelry! The fact that Apple brought back people who had stopped wearing watches just shows that there was demand for that sort of thing, and it was being unmet by traditional watches. People still want to see the time quickly but they now demand more than that. Yes, we segment out the luxury watch and commodity watch markets. Both of those markets are growing as a whole.

papichulo4 3y ago

I thought this was the future, too, but I think there has to be a shared display that you can relay/validate the output together (with the GPT) on. It has to be able to draw a thing, quickly, show you what it's thinking -- voice is too slow to be the single medium of interaction.

RobotToaster 3y ago

I wonder why google are taking so long to integrate bard with assistant? Seems like a no brainer move.