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Sure, if you own the building, you can have it tagged however you want. However this is a property rights issue. When you accept some form of lawlessness or dis
by bko 3y ago
Sure, if you own the building, you can have it tagged however you want. However this is a property rights issue. When you accept some form of lawlessness or disregard to property, you can bet that it won't stop there. Who's to say your car doesn't need a colorful new paint job?
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- weinzierl 3y ago"Sure, if you own the building, you can have it tagged however you want." Your HOA might disagree.
- RestlessMind 3y agoBecause HOA owns that community. So "if you own the building" condition is not met, by definition.
- Tostino 3y agoThat's not how that works. At all.
- JohnFen 3y agoIt kinda is how it works in practice. Seeing most of my friends who bought houses governed by an HOA constantly struggle with them has convinced me that HOAs are evil and should be avoided at all costs.
- RestlessMind 3y agoThat's pretty much how it works here in norcal. HOA owns the land under the community, the common places etc. Only thing a "homeowner" has control over is from "everything inside from color of the walls onwards".
- oh_sigh 3y agoSure, and that's because you(or some previous owner of your property) gave away certain rights relating to the property to the HOA.
- williamcotton 3y agoMy car isn’t towering over the city! It’s also a lame and easy target. A skyscraper is gonna earn some props that my minivan ain’t. Disregard for property is not the motivating factor for these artists.
- bko 3y agoHead over to Reddit fuckcars. You'll find plenty of people that find your car offensive. God help you if you have an SUV. Doesn't matter what the motivating factor is. Maybe they are artists but when others see lawlessness is accepted and even applauded, theyll seize the opportunity.
- heyoni 3y agoYou’re inventing a problem though. There’s no overlap between car hating and tagging. Car tagging isn’t common at all and saying we have to enforce one to prevent the other is a scare tactic used to deploy aggressive forms of enforcement.
- bko 3y agoYou're missing the point. The car comment was a bit of a tongue in cheek joke about an unfinished sky scraper being ugly and your car isn't offensive when plenty of people on Reddit find your car offensive. My point is that lawlessness breeds more lawlessness. I see it myself, when im in a neighborhood that's pristine, I act accordingly. I remember in Tokyo waiting for a walk to cross when there were no cars nearby or queuing to get on the subway, something unthinkable in NYC. Laws should be reasonable (e.g. littering, vandalism, can't tag other people's property) and widely enforced. We should condeme lawlessness without consideration of the victim and offending party
- heyoni 3y agoEnforcement is a high cost and that should be factored in and I’m not saying it should be legal to tag property that isn’t yours but the bystander effect should address concerns of lawlessness spreading to personal vehicles. Buildings and billboards get tagged because no one really cares about faceless conglomerates of real estate developers. It’s only natural that they don’t derive the same level of sympathy an individual would get if their car got spray painted.
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- drewcoo 3y agoYou can't own the commons. You don't get to spew air pollution from your property. Or constantly play loud music. You shouldn't be allowed to force your eyesore on people either.
- cscurmudgeon 3y agoAgreed. Tags are eyesores!
- NewJazz 3y agoSo paint over them!
- undersuit 3y ago>When you accept some form of lawlessness or disregard to property You talking about the example set by the owner's who have disregarded this unfinished property for years?