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> Imagine sitting here and tolerating people pejoratively calling people "communists". Also tolerated - by calling them "Russians". The logic goes, if there's
by thriftwy 3y ago
> Imagine sitting here and tolerating people pejoratively calling people "communists".
Also tolerated - by calling them "Russians".
The logic goes, if there's nothing innately wrong with Communism then Russians (and, to extent, Chinese) must be up to blame.
- defrost 3y agoThat's pretty much it - if you check your history it's clear that neither Russia nor China adopted Communism in practice - they both went for authoritarian committe rule with power struggles as some kind of "neccessary" middle state while they work their way towards Twue Communism.
- thriftwy 3y agoIt was still way more socialist than what California or South European left wants. Soviet Union had socialized assigned housing, affirmative action policy and equalized wages right from the start. Still, it is largely ignored by socialist LARPers of today.
- defrost 3y agoAustralia was and likely still is more socialist than any US centralists wants. The 1900's Harvester agreement indexed the minimum wage to am eight hour work day with a week sufficient to feed, house, and clothe a worker and their family. The Whitlam years saw free university education for anyone that merited by high school (and equivilency) exams, health care has been universal - now with a split of both public and private, pharmacy companies are capped on their generics so that costs are reasonable, differences are picked up for those that can't afford medication (for almost all prescriptions), etc.