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> If I try to think less, then thoughts will just hide themselves from me. repeatedly, some new fully-developed thought will just suddenly reveal itself to me,

> If I try to think less, then thoughts will just hide themselves from me. repeatedly, some new fully-developed thought will just suddenly reveal itself to me, having already been developing for the past 10+ seconds without my knowledge. That sounds like successful meditation, because noticing this is the first thing you're supposed to learn using it. Just practice it going away again once it shows up.

LoganDark 3y ago
It almost sounds like it, but I can't control those thoughts. They happen on their own. I've been told one of the ways to successful meditation is learning to be a passive observer of these thoughts, to let them happen but not engage in them, but I definitely don't know how that works.
- fsociety 3y ago
  You were doing it. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    Interesting. I definitely have an internal universe, but I've been trying for almost a decade to access it. Meditation does not work unless I'm on certain drugs, all of which that are legal having stopped working for that purpose. The only way I have found is to find another real person and actually describe it to them as I explore. If there is nobody else there, it is as if my internal universe does not even exist. Even my DID system seems to stop existing. I just become a completely empty shell unless there is somebody else around to observe me. In other words, it does not seem like it exists for me, but only to be observed by others. I want to fix this, but I do not think that is possible... Also, the technique recommended in the video doesn't sound like something I can do since I don't feel like having to explain the weird noises to the other people in my house.
    - lawrenceyan 3y ago
      I found this was a really comprehensive intro to starting meditation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34882432 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34882432

LoganDark 3y ago

It almost sounds like it, but I can't control those thoughts. They happen on their own. I've been told one of the ways to successful meditation is learning to be a passive observer of these thoughts, to let them happen but not engage in them, but I definitely don't know how that works.

fsociety 3y ago
You were doing it. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  Interesting. I definitely have an internal universe, but I've been trying for almost a decade to access it. Meditation does not work unless I'm on certain drugs, all of which that are legal having stopped working for that purpose. The only way I have found is to find another real person and actually describe it to them as I explore. If there is nobody else there, it is as if my internal universe does not even exist. Even my DID system seems to stop existing. I just become a completely empty shell unless there is somebody else around to observe me. In other words, it does not seem like it exists for me, but only to be observed by others. I want to fix this, but I do not think that is possible... Also, the technique recommended in the video doesn't sound like something I can do since I don't feel like having to explain the weird noises to the other people in my house.
  - lawrenceyan 3y ago
    I found this was a really comprehensive intro to starting meditation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34882432 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34882432