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It would be neat to have a version that plugs straight in to a Macbook pro and uses that for all the processing + battery. Then it's basically just a portable e

by pants2 3y ago

It would be neat to have a version that plugs straight in to a Macbook pro and uses that for all the processing + battery. Then it's basically just a portable external display.

karlgkk 3y ago
Posting from Vision, right now. I can say with some serious confidence that this wouldn't work well in that way for multiple reasons. Moving around, not being tethered, being able to take it on the plane, etc. Latency would be an issue. Not to mention, the cost of on board-computing is negligible compared to the necessary cost of the displays, R1, etc. Although, I have been using it with my MacBook Pro as a remote client, to great effect.
- pests 3y ago
  Yall really going to be using these on the plane? Can't wait to watch zombies pinching at the air.
  - karlgkk 3y ago
    First of all, you don't have to move your hand or pinch "on" something for most tasks. The ones where you do move your hand, the range of motion needed is actually pretty small. You can have your hand in your lap or neutral on an arm rest, and pinch there. Hand position doesn't matter. Anyways, this is going to be indispensable on the plane and for frequent fliers. Having a full 20 foot cinema experience? Being able to quickly pause and interact with an attendant or the person next to you without taking it off? Killer.
    - pests 3y ago
      > and pinch there Pinchers! I'm only teasing honestly.
  - wudangmonk 3y ago
    Are people looking down and flicking their fingers the hip crowd and the air pinchers the lamers?.
    - filoleg 3y ago
      You don’t need to look down for this. You look at the windows that you want to move/interact with, which are presumably in front of you (not down below), and that acts as a pointer. While your hands are on your lap, which you use to click/drag things. It is kind of similar to how you don’t need to look at your keyboard or mouse buttons to interact with things on your screen.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    This was in the marketing for the previous VR headsets. They looked just as goofy as Palmer on the cover.
  - grecy 3y ago
    When I want to go to sleep I put on an eye mask on the plane, or I stare like a zombie at the screen on the back of the chair in front of me. Either way I have noise cancelling headphones. Honestly, I just see something like a headset just making my experience a bit more personal, which isn't a bad thing.
  - dymk 3y ago
    Kids these days with their walkmans and their headphones, no respect at all I tell ya
- matt-attack 3y ago
  Agree. I don’t think people realize just how many incoming video streams this thing has to process. I’ve heard it’s like 14 or so independent streams of video that needs processing in extremely low latency ways. Apple had to build an entire dedicated chip just to handle the realtime processing of this much incoming data.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  > being able to take it on the plane I see the point of portability. I also wonder how much people actually care about being entertained in airplanes. You put it as your 3rd bullet point after "not being tethered", does it mean you're spending a crazy amount of time in your life inside planes ? Or is such a soul crushing experience that it easily warrants 3500$ of investment to improve ? And as a follow up question, did you buy a Quest2/3 under the same premise, and will replace your current setup with the AVP as an upgrade ?
  - comex 3y ago
    (Not the parent.) As someone who flies a few times a year, I do find it kind of soul-crushing, because of the physical discomfort of being crammed into a small space for 6 hours straight. But I suspect a headset would just make this worse; the otherwise-mild physical discomfort of wearing it would compound with the plane’s discomfort. Also, I’d be worried about disturbing adjacent passengers. And my backpack has little enough space already without a giant headset inside. …And yet I did buy a Vision Pro, for mostly unrelated reasons. (Hasn’t arrived yet.) So I’m looking forward to at least giving the airplane AR experience a try, for the novelty if nothing else.
    - ajdude 3y ago
      You should definitely give it a try. I don't have the Vision Pro, but I do have an xreal air. I used it on a seven hour transatlantic flight in economy class. I had to cover on so I couldn't see anything but the screens, but everything around me kind of just disappeared and I watched my movies, did my budget, did some writing, and didn't even feel like I was on a plane. It's worth noting that the xreal air has a form factor of sunglasses instead of a VR headset, so it's much later on my face so maybe that was a factor.

by pants2 3y ago

It would be neat to have a version that plugs straight in to a Macbook pro and uses that for all the processing + battery. Then it's basically just a portable external display.

karlgkk 3y ago

Posting from Vision, right now. I can say with some serious confidence that this wouldn't work well in that way for multiple reasons. Moving around, not being tethered, being able to take it on the plane, etc. Latency would be an issue. Not to mention, the cost of on board-computing is negligible compared to the necessary cost of the displays, R1, etc. Although, I have been using it with my MacBook Pro as a remote client, to great effect.

pests 3y ago
Yall really going to be using these on the plane? Can't wait to watch zombies pinching at the air.
- karlgkk 3y ago
  First of all, you don't have to move your hand or pinch "on" something for most tasks. The ones where you do move your hand, the range of motion needed is actually pretty small. You can have your hand in your lap or neutral on an arm rest, and pinch there. Hand position doesn't matter. Anyways, this is going to be indispensable on the plane and for frequent fliers. Having a full 20 foot cinema experience? Being able to quickly pause and interact with an attendant or the person next to you without taking it off? Killer.
  - pests 3y ago
    > and pinch there Pinchers! I'm only teasing honestly.
- wudangmonk 3y ago
  Are people looking down and flicking their fingers the hip crowd and the air pinchers the lamers?.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    You don’t need to look down for this. You look at the windows that you want to move/interact with, which are presumably in front of you (not down below), and that acts as a pointer. While your hands are on your lap, which you use to click/drag things. It is kind of similar to how you don’t need to look at your keyboard or mouse buttons to interact with things on your screen.
- dylan604 3y ago
  This was in the marketing for the previous VR headsets. They looked just as goofy as Palmer on the cover.
- grecy 3y ago
  When I want to go to sleep I put on an eye mask on the plane, or I stare like a zombie at the screen on the back of the chair in front of me. Either way I have noise cancelling headphones. Honestly, I just see something like a headset just making my experience a bit more personal, which isn't a bad thing.
- dymk 3y ago
  Kids these days with their walkmans and their headphones, no respect at all I tell ya
matt-attack 3y ago
Agree. I don’t think people realize just how many incoming video streams this thing has to process. I’ve heard it’s like 14 or so independent streams of video that needs processing in extremely low latency ways. Apple had to build an entire dedicated chip just to handle the realtime processing of this much incoming data.
makeitdouble 3y ago
> being able to take it on the plane I see the point of portability. I also wonder how much people actually care about being entertained in airplanes. You put it as your 3rd bullet point after "not being tethered", does it mean you're spending a crazy amount of time in your life inside planes ? Or is such a soul crushing experience that it easily warrants 3500$ of investment to improve ? And as a follow up question, did you buy a Quest2/3 under the same premise, and will replace your current setup with the AVP as an upgrade ?
- comex 3y ago
  (Not the parent.) As someone who flies a few times a year, I do find it kind of soul-crushing, because of the physical discomfort of being crammed into a small space for 6 hours straight. But I suspect a headset would just make this worse; the otherwise-mild physical discomfort of wearing it would compound with the plane’s discomfort. Also, I’d be worried about disturbing adjacent passengers. And my backpack has little enough space already without a giant headset inside. …And yet I did buy a Vision Pro, for mostly unrelated reasons. (Hasn’t arrived yet.) So I’m looking forward to at least giving the airplane AR experience a try, for the novelty if nothing else.
  - ajdude 3y ago
    You should definitely give it a try. I don't have the Vision Pro, but I do have an xreal air. I used it on a seven hour transatlantic flight in economy class. I had to cover on so I couldn't see anything but the screens, but everything around me kind of just disappeared and I watched my movies, did my budget, did some writing, and didn't even feel like I was on a plane. It's worth noting that the xreal air has a form factor of sunglasses instead of a VR headset, so it's much later on my face so maybe that was a factor.