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With the right directional antenna you can already go like 10 miles and more. I certainly went over 1 km like 17 years ago just by using a grid reflector antenn

With the right directional antenna you can already go like 10 miles and more. I certainly went over 1 km like 17 years ago just by using a grid reflector antenna connected to a cheap consumer 802.11b access point using legal power and a normal PCMCIA card with no external antenna on the other side. The point of the technology should be to allow long range communications with some speed restrictions but without sacrificing portability, which of course using a big directional antenna is not possible.

modeless 3y ago
Isn't this illegal though? Aren't there limits that you are exceeding?
- squarefoot 3y ago
  Yes, connecting a directional antenna is illegal because its gain "amplifies" the power in a given direction at the expense of all other directions. We of course didn't tell anyone, and back then there weren't many services that we could disrupt by pointing the antenna from the 9th floor of a building to a nearby hill:)
  - wtallis 3y ago
    Using directional antennas is legal if you compensate by turning down the transmission power so that in the direction you are still transmitting the signal is no more intense than it would have been with omnidirectional antennas. That doesn't entirely defeat the purpose of using directional antennas because it still means that the receive side is focused specifically at the direction of interest and not picking up as much noise from irrelevant directions.
  - int_19h 3y ago
    It's not illegal if you have a ham license, though. This allows for interesting hacks such as AREDN, which uses off-the-shelf WiFi hardware to run a mesh network, using high-gain (and usually directional) antennas to link larger nodes to each other: http://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/aredn_overview.html http://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/ared...
- dboreham 3y ago
  Depends on the country but in the US 10 miles with high gain antennas is easily within FCC rules. This is how WISPs operate.
  - squarefoot 3y ago
    Strange, I would have expected WISPs to have different regulations than consumers.

modeless 3y ago

Isn't this illegal though? Aren't there limits that you are exceeding?

squarefoot 3y ago
Yes, connecting a directional antenna is illegal because its gain "amplifies" the power in a given direction at the expense of all other directions. We of course didn't tell anyone, and back then there weren't many services that we could disrupt by pointing the antenna from the 9th floor of a building to a nearby hill:)
- wtallis 3y ago
  Using directional antennas is legal if you compensate by turning down the transmission power so that in the direction you are still transmitting the signal is no more intense than it would have been with omnidirectional antennas. That doesn't entirely defeat the purpose of using directional antennas because it still means that the receive side is focused specifically at the direction of interest and not picking up as much noise from irrelevant directions.
- int_19h 3y ago
  It's not illegal if you have a ham license, though. This allows for interesting hacks such as AREDN, which uses off-the-shelf WiFi hardware to run a mesh network, using high-gain (and usually directional) antennas to link larger nodes to each other: http://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/aredn_overview.html http://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/ared...
dboreham 3y ago
Depends on the country but in the US 10 miles with high gain antennas is easily within FCC rules. This is how WISPs operate.
- squarefoot 3y ago
  Strange, I would have expected WISPs to have different regulations than consumers.