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I don't really get the computer monitor replacement argument - if you are creating as opposed to consuming content (i.e. coding/designing/authoring), then you a

I don't really get the computer monitor replacement argument - if you are creating as opposed to consuming content (i.e. coding/designing/authoring), then you are going to need a rather better input medium than what a virtual keyboard/mouse will provide. And this better medium, whether keyboard, trackpad, mouse or something else, will be sitting on a desk - with your monitors! If you want more/bigger monitors, then go buy some with the $3499.

joshstrange 3y ago
I can’t speak for anybody else, but for me, I am happy to use a mouse, keyboard, and even my MacBook Pro. I just want the Apple Vision Pro to replace my monitors.
grecy 3y ago
You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.
- somewhereoutth 3y ago
  I can see how 'authoring from your lap' with a laptop actually on your lap (while on the sofa - like I am doing right now) might benefit from bigger/multi screens instead of the tiny portal the laptop gives you, but as soon as you want to do something more complex probably you'll reach for your mouse, and perhaps a paper and pen/pencil (if you think with your hands). Thus to the desk you go, where all your monitors are anyway.
  - grecy 3y ago
    > To sell the public that he achieved the dream of giving Ethiopia “access to sea”(which they already have access to) Sure, but the vision pro offers "bigger" monitors that can fill your vision (if you want)
- sneak 3y ago
  I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Seriously? Which other ones can you use then? Wired? That's totally not Apple. That would be a really curious limitation.
  - jitl 3y ago
    You can use whatever peripherals are connected to your Mac with Vision Pro if you’re using the AVP as the display for your Mac. The Mac’s cursor can leave the Mac window to interact with floating Vision Pro windows and such. I used my Logitech Bluetooth mouse just fine for that.
    - sneak 3y ago
      Yeah I assume this is going to require continuity/handoff, and those use iCloud for syncing state/keys, and iCloud is a privacy nightmare, so unfortunately that feature is probably off the table for me as all iCloud hostnames are blackholed on my macs. I’ll know more on Monday. My statement was of course about the AVP; everyone knows you can use bluetooth mice on a mac.
      - jitl 3y ago
        It’s so strange that I can use a mouse via Continuity and the UI seems to respond thoughtfully to the pointing device, but I just tried pairing that same Logitech mouse and got an error saying “Mouse input is currently not supported on visionOS”. Getting a lot of iPhone/iOS 1.0 vibes.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    I think the WSJ video review showed it being used with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It’s definitely possible. The pointer comes up like when you use a trackpad or mouse with the iPad.

joshstrange 3y ago

I can’t speak for anybody else, but for me, I am happy to use a mouse, keyboard, and even my MacBook Pro. I just want the Apple Vision Pro to replace my monitors.

grecy 3y ago

You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.

somewhereoutth 3y ago
I can see how 'authoring from your lap' with a laptop actually on your lap (while on the sofa - like I am doing right now) might benefit from bigger/multi screens instead of the tiny portal the laptop gives you, but as soon as you want to do something more complex probably you'll reach for your mouse, and perhaps a paper and pen/pencil (if you think with your hands). Thus to the desk you go, where all your monitors are anyway.
- grecy 3y ago
  > To sell the public that he achieved the dream of giving Ethiopia “access to sea”(which they already have access to) Sure, but the vision pro offers "bigger" monitors that can fill your vision (if you want)
sneak 3y ago
I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Seriously? Which other ones can you use then? Wired? That's totally not Apple. That would be a really curious limitation.
- jitl 3y ago
  You can use whatever peripherals are connected to your Mac with Vision Pro if you’re using the AVP as the display for your Mac. The Mac’s cursor can leave the Mac window to interact with floating Vision Pro windows and such. I used my Logitech Bluetooth mouse just fine for that.
  - sneak 3y ago
    Yeah I assume this is going to require continuity/handoff, and those use iCloud for syncing state/keys, and iCloud is a privacy nightmare, so unfortunately that feature is probably off the table for me as all iCloud hostnames are blackholed on my macs. I’ll know more on Monday. My statement was of course about the AVP; everyone knows you can use bluetooth mice on a mac.
    - jitl 3y ago
      It’s so strange that I can use a mouse via Continuity and the UI seems to respond thoughtfully to the pointing device, but I just tried pairing that same Logitech mouse and got an error saying “Mouse input is currently not supported on visionOS”. Getting a lot of iPhone/iOS 1.0 vibes.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  I think the WSJ video review showed it being used with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It’s definitely possible. The pointer comes up like when you use a trackpad or mouse with the iPad.