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This is just smoke screen, there might not be an Ethiopia in a few years, the country has been in turmoil for years now and spiralling to collapse. Just yesterd

by nujabe 3y ago

This is just smoke screen, there might not be an Ethiopia in a few years, the country has been in turmoil for years now and spiralling to collapse. Just yesterday they announced a state of emergency yesterday in the Amhara region, militias that were used by the government to crush the Tigray rebellion in a 2 year civil war are now themselves refusing to put down arms. Other regions are also seeing rebellion. To sell the public that he achieved the dream of giving Ethiopia “access to sea”(which they already have access to) they recently announced an illegal deal with a rebel region from a neighbouring country (Somalia) where they annexed some land for a military base in exchange for “recognition” which is causing a lot of conflict in the region. From how things are going there likely will not be an Ethiopia in 2 years time but 4-5 separate countries.

grecy 3y ago
> To sell the public that he achieved the dream of giving Ethiopia “access to sea”(which they already have access to) When I was there Ethiopia being landlocked was a huge problem and expensive situation (I watched thousands and thousands of trucks driving overland from the big new Chinese port in Djibouti City. How exactly does Ethiopia have access to the sea?
- nujabe 3y ago
  > “The question is not will Ethiopia access the sea. We want Ethiopia to have access to the sea, there is no question about that,” Mohamud said, adding that the federal government was ready to negotiate a deal with Addis Ababa. “But grabbing a piece of land, we are not ready for that.” - President of Somalia https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/1/23/dont-do-it-somali- https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/1/23/dont-do-it-soma... president-warns-ethiopia-against-somaliland-port-deal The UAE (and later the UK) invested in a major trade corridor and investment in a port in the region, initially Somalia rejected it but later agreed after UAE negotiated with the government. Ethiopia has access to a major port in the region, in fact they own 20% of the DP world project. What they want is access to sea not for commercial reasons but for military reasons. You don’t need 20km of land for a port.
  - grecy 3y ago
    Soooo, they have access to the ocean through a deal with Somalia... which like all landlocked countries is only as good as the current deal maker makes it.. and will cost them. Soooo, they don't have "access to the ocean" in any way differently than they ever have, or any other landlocked country has ever had. Gotcha.
    - nujabe 3y ago
      You talk as if being land locked is an economic death knell, Ethiopia is not the only country in the world (yet a lone region - which there are many) that is landlocked. This land for recognition isn’t going to solve truck congestion in Ethiopia. If they were interested in solving that they would’ve helped finance a rail line from Berbera to Addis, but as I mentioned Ethiopian PM is interested in selling to an uninterested public the deal of Ethiopia with a navy.
      - grecy 3y ago
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        nujabe 3y ago
        That rail line was opened in 2018 and is in service. I was talking about the port in Berbera. https://www.bii.co.uk/en/news-insight/news/british-international-investment-supports-inauguration-of-berbera-economic-zone/amp/ https://www.bii.co.uk/en/news-insight/news/british-internati...

by nujabe 3y ago

grecy 3y ago

> To sell the public that he achieved the dream of giving Ethiopia “access to sea”(which they already have access to) When I was there Ethiopia being landlocked was a huge problem and expensive situation (I watched thousands and thousands of trucks driving overland from the big new Chinese port in Djibouti City. How exactly does Ethiopia have access to the sea?

nujabe 3y ago
> “The question is not will Ethiopia access the sea. We want Ethiopia to have access to the sea, there is no question about that,” Mohamud said, adding that the federal government was ready to negotiate a deal with Addis Ababa. “But grabbing a piece of land, we are not ready for that.” - President of Somalia https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/1/23/dont-do-it-somali- https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/1/23/dont-do-it-soma... president-warns-ethiopia-against-somaliland-port-deal The UAE (and later the UK) invested in a major trade corridor and investment in a port in the region, initially Somalia rejected it but later agreed after UAE negotiated with the government. Ethiopia has access to a major port in the region, in fact they own 20% of the DP world project. What they want is access to sea not for commercial reasons but for military reasons. You don’t need 20km of land for a port.
- grecy 3y ago
  Soooo, they have access to the ocean through a deal with Somalia... which like all landlocked countries is only as good as the current deal maker makes it.. and will cost them. Soooo, they don't have "access to the ocean" in any way differently than they ever have, or any other landlocked country has ever had. Gotcha.
  - nujabe 3y ago
    You talk as if being land locked is an economic death knell, Ethiopia is not the only country in the world (yet a lone region - which there are many) that is landlocked. This land for recognition isn’t going to solve truck congestion in Ethiopia. If they were interested in solving that they would’ve helped finance a rail line from Berbera to Addis, but as I mentioned Ethiopian PM is interested in selling to an uninterested public the deal of Ethiopia with a navy.
    - grecy 3y ago
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      - nujabe 3y ago
        That rail line was opened in 2018 and is in service. I was talking about the port in Berbera. https://www.bii.co.uk/en/news-insight/news/british-international-investment-supports-inauguration-of-berbera-economic-zone/amp/ https://www.bii.co.uk/en/news-insight/news/british-internati...