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I sincerely doubt it's the devs coming up with these ideas and pitching them to management.
by baxuz 3y ago
I sincerely doubt it's the devs coming up with these ideas and pitching them to management.
- executesorder66 3y agoI don't work for microsoft, but I and everyone else knows that that is the kind of shit you'll be working on (who suggested it is irrelevant) long before you'd even do an interview with them. Microsoft employees are certified assholes, and they know it.
- droopyEyelids 3y agoHe’s saying that developers are simply given a list of tasks to implement and their decision making authority stops after “how do i implement this ticket” The role “product manager” is what makes the product decisions like we’re describing.
- executesorder66 3y agoI know. I'm saying they already knew those kinds of decisions would be made long before they even got the job. Which is why I said it is irrelevant who makes the decision. The devs are just as guilty as the assholes who made those decisions, because Microsoft has been making those kinds of decisions for decades. These devs can't even hide behind the "just following orders" excuse, because as I've already said multiple times, they knew long before they got the job, that that is the kind of stuff they would be working on.
- ljm 3y agoI got moved into a 'growth' department in one job and that was enough for me to put my feelers out and tender my resignation. All the work in the pipeline was about pulling the rug under from customers, increasing prices, and not adding value but removing it from general availability and paywalling it. It just felt wrong with me and what was important to me at the time.