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Forget about me for a moment. Does Javascript really mean something important to you?

scarface_74 3y ago
Not running JavaScript in 2024 is like putting a speed governor on your own car that limits you to going 35 miles an hour. It serves no useful purpose
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  > It serves no useful purpose No useful purpose to who?
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    What purpose do you have for removing functionality that has been part of the web since the 90s?
    - nonrandomstring 3y ago
      Of course. What I do not want or need is code that's been part of the web since about 2016-2020, which is arbitrary code execution by complete strangers. Not even in a sandboxed disposable web browser. Now I suspect you'll want to tell me how actually Javascript is perfectly safe... and that's a conversation we can save for another day for the sake of both our dignity and friendship. I'm afraid it's my job to know otherwise.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Well despite your appeal to authority… If you knew about that many exploits in the wild, surely you could (white hat) tell the company who created the browser or (black hat) make a lot of money by selling it to three letter agencies or private companies that sell it to three letter agencies. However, in the real world, a fully patched Android or iOS operating system - especially one that is in “lock down mode” is not any more susceptible to Zero day exploits than the number of other exploitable parts of the OS that you also don’t have any control over. And even if you only run open source software, how long was the OpenSSL bug in operating systems before it was discovered? Do you use your mobile’s messaging system? That’s been one of the primary targets of exploits that will target you directly.
        nonrandomstring 3y ago
        I appreciate your sincere and sweet overtures scarface, but I'm just not that kinda javascript girl. You're right though, everything out there is riddled with holes. Let's not give up though.

Not running JavaScript in 2024 is like putting a speed governor on your own car that limits you to going 35 miles an hour. It serves no useful purpose

nonrandomstring 3y ago
> It serves no useful purpose No useful purpose to who?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  What purpose do you have for removing functionality that has been part of the web since the 90s?
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    Of course. What I do not want or need is code that's been part of the web since about 2016-2020, which is arbitrary code execution by complete strangers. Not even in a sandboxed disposable web browser. Now I suspect you'll want to tell me how actually Javascript is perfectly safe... and that's a conversation we can save for another day for the sake of both our dignity and friendship. I'm afraid it's my job to know otherwise.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Well despite your appeal to authority… If you knew about that many exploits in the wild, surely you could (white hat) tell the company who created the browser or (black hat) make a lot of money by selling it to three letter agencies or private companies that sell it to three letter agencies. However, in the real world, a fully patched Android or iOS operating system - especially one that is in “lock down mode” is not any more susceptible to Zero day exploits than the number of other exploitable parts of the OS that you also don’t have any control over. And even if you only run open source software, how long was the OpenSSL bug in operating systems before it was discovered? Do you use your mobile’s messaging system? That’s been one of the primary targets of exploits that will target you directly.
      - nonrandomstring 3y ago
        I appreciate your sincere and sweet overtures scarface, but I'm just not that kinda javascript girl. You're right though, everything out there is riddled with holes. Let's not give up though.